Mumsnet Grass Account

Queen Elizabeth I had a spy network that covered the known world, as did the Vatican. They both followed the same basic rule: if something can come back to bite you, either don't write it down, or if you must write it down, encode it and burn after reading.

My internet does stretch as far as the garden

Not all the way to the end though...

spontaneous I'm just tired on everyone's behalf!

If it is Helen that'll be hilarious and embarrassing for her. Cringe. Any lingistic analysis experts on MN?

AngryAttackKittens Too true. Personally the MN report account doesn't bother me one bit. They are showing people that their version of what is transphobia is ridiculous and unreasonable. More power to them I say.

Ah, the modern world, where people's conversations with their imaginary friends happen on Twitter.

I've said Helen is behind that account for a couple of days and I still do believe it's her. The posting style was identical until it was pointed out then it changed. Also, when Helen is tweeting so is the other account. Helen thinks we were all born yesterday.

Helen is trying to dig herself out of a hole

Greymisty I totally agree. When my children were small, I had no pressure to work as I mentioned and life was mainly centred around the family. Now, mums are expected to be superwomen, work, activities, mad social lives, housecleaners and launderers. It must be exhausting. I have huge respect for mums today.

saga lout I've always planned on growing old disgracefully, so far I've stuck to it.

spontaneous one of the reasons I've currently decided not to have children...I have no ability to be superwoman. So much is expected nice house, nice kids, nice career, nice date nights with a partner. Nice things take time and attention and I can't juggle all that.

(Sorry I'll stop derailing!)

Maybe it's all the MIL threads...

Thanks. Maybe a good place for holiday suggestions when you get to saga lout age?

Why do gransnetters usually disapprove of mumsnetters?

I genuinely don't know. I've read it off and on for a while. Yes we are grans but we are mums too. Perhaps it's just that things have moved on and mums today have a different life than they/I had when my children were small. I actually feel sorry for mums today, my baby/toddler parenting time seems easier than today. I had a traditional marriage in many ways and didn't have the pressure to to work outside the home. Life for mums seems much tougher now.

spontaneous 's summary is accurate I think...it's very gentle. Think of it as a toodle down a nice country lane vs mumsnet which is like walking down a busy high st.

Why do gransnetters usually disapprove of mumsnetters? I read both sites for ages before joining MN.

Errol i think gransnet is less busy than mumsnet, it has topics like grandparenting etc as well as the usual chat and gardening....think it has a style and beauty to. I do love reading it... I should add I'm not their target audience however

ErrolTheDragon Yes it has. I don't think I will post there much, I like the robust debate here. GN seems to be a much more gentle place. Just my thoughts though but I can't see the debates we have here happening there.

I am a gran and have just joined GN and posted.

I'm not a gran, but well into my 50s, wondering if I might find an extra set of interesting topics there? (I seem to be just FWR and gardening here at the mo). One question- do you know if the petition has been linked to on there?

Gransnet

Agree that women/pps not being socialised and gendered Miss Pleasent Delightful will get accused of being rude which is why the GC feminism viewpoint is so hard for others to hear and swallow.

Which subject is the gransnet thread under? All I could find was a delightful and pleasant thread of gransnetters trying their best to use preferred pronouns and titles. I should go back to reading gransnet its gentle, but it does make me pine for my long gone nana. You mumsnetters have corrupted me

I am a gran and have just joined GN and posted. I'm heartened that many of the grans there fully understand the issues we discuss here and are talking about it.

Power to grans

The thing about lurkers is though, that so many ex-lurkers have joined mainly/solely because of the gender critical debate, and new members each day thank the regulars on FWR for opening their eyes. The few lurkers who join to criticize are usually TRAs, and show themselves as such fairly quickly. Some MN members have an issue with how 'rude' people are in this debate, but feminists are surely used to that accusation? Anything less than total capitulation to males is regarded as rude and aggressive.

I think HQ said its not just the criticism from TRA but how the debate on here is perceived by others outside of GC feminism and TRAs. As other pps on threads have concluded always remember the lurkers and now its also always remember your comment may be screenshot out of context and read on Twitter.

How have they started on Gransnet? Bring the nanas over here more the merrier

Bit rude, I'm a Gullible Granny too

On Squirrels thread over there. They're all gullible grannies and we are mean and should pop off back here.

how what? On twitter