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Justine Mumsnet, her husband and Channel 4

60 replies

MsMcWoodle · 04/05/2018 16:32

Apparently Justine's husband is now Director of Programmes at Chanel 4.
Just leaving that here.

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MsMcWoodle · 04/05/2018 17:36

I really hope not, but I'm worried.

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MrPan · 04/05/2018 17:36

And drawing your own ill informed picture with them.

TERFragetteCity · 04/05/2018 17:34

That's really unfair TERF. you know nothing of the sort.

I know the things all happened in the space of a few days.

Just joining the dots.

Pratchet · 04/05/2018 17:31

No I don't think there's a connection. You have no idea what it's like to have a massive profile and be this targeted by an irrational, sometimes violent, controlling group which either has the support of 648 MPs or has intimidated them into staying silent. Look who is caving - all institutions, researchers, government bodies, corporations - Justine has a mountain of people against her. She is doing her best, she will find a way through this. She is NOT a flake.

Deerdear · 04/05/2018 17:31

I’m a bit behind. Please could someone explain the recent policy change? Many thanks!

MrPan · 04/05/2018 17:29

That's really unfair TERF. you know nothing of the sort. Programmes aren't produced in days or weeks.

TERFragetteCity · 04/05/2018 17:25

Okay, good then, so the consensus is that the recent change in policy at Mumsnet has nothing to do with this.

No I was going to post the same thing.
Weird how the announcements about the 'How to be a woman' AND Caitlyn Jenner's invite come out the same week as a policy change here.

'How to throw Women under a bus for your Hubster's career for Dummies.'

Pratchet · 04/05/2018 17:22

On this issue, decisions are family decisions imo. Because TRA can be such violent, misogynistic, abusive fuckers, justine's free speech stance (now ancient history?) would have put her family and kids at risk. Of course they talk about it.

jasperpop · 04/05/2018 17:19

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MsMcWoodle · 04/05/2018 17:13

And yes, women do have separate identities, however couples often share values. Very difficult to be a couple if you don't.

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MsMcWoodle · 04/05/2018 17:09

And I think you're being naive. We'll have to agree to differ.

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lightthedarkness · 04/05/2018 17:07

Feminists acknowledge women as independent beings, not under the influence of their partners. Women have separate identities and careers. In your desperation to score points, you're exhibiting the first rule of misogyny - 'Women are responsible for what men do'.

MrPan · 04/05/2018 17:07

As head of programming and commissioning since only January this year and knowing how far ahead programmes are commissioned and planned it's v highly likely Mr Katz had little to do with this. Or it was well under way and his editorial exec team had significant say.

jasperpop · 04/05/2018 17:06

that's fine. of course she has her own mind.
sadly now she has buckled under the transkult onslaught.

plus the handmaid that leaked the data of women who didn't agree.
seems MN fem thread is not what it was.

i.e. by women for women. BIOLOGICAL WOMEN OBVS

Amalfimamma · 04/05/2018 17:04

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MsMcWoodle · 04/05/2018 16:59

Okay, good then, so the consensus is that the recent change in policy at Mumsnet has nothing to do with this. Fine.
I thought it was interesting development, you guys don't. Not the first time I haven't agreed with everyone on Mumsnet.

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HollowTalk · 04/05/2018 16:59

OP, when you start threads like this - personal threads, implying all sorts - you sound like a fool.

Everyone's known since time began that Justine's husband is in the media. Everyone also knows she's her own woman and he won't be dictating anything to her, nor will she to him.

Are women in 2018 to be judged by what job their husbands do?

jasperpop · 04/05/2018 16:56

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TheFallenMadonna · 04/05/2018 16:56

Verging on tin foil hat territory?

Slitherout · 04/05/2018 16:54

Bugger, opened this thinking they were going to be on Gogglebox or he was going on big brother or something, definitely non news. I'm sure Mumsnet, especially referring to the collective users as much as the actual site, will remain unchanged by his job, HTH.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/05/2018 16:54

The OP is probably hinting at the fact that Caitlin Jenner is going to give some sort of Diversity lecture sponsored by Channel 4. Julie Bindel is very unhappy about this. I will admit to raising an eyebrow that in three years they haven't been able to find a suitable biological female to do it.

To say that Justine has been influenced by her husband's job in the current frenzy is verging on tin foil hat territory for me.

MsMcWoodle · 04/05/2018 16:53

MrPan - maybe some anger management?

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MrPan · 04/05/2018 16:52

If it's a thing then name it instead of behaving like a nasty little child.

MsMcWoodle · 04/05/2018 16:50

Oh, if there's nothing of interest here, why don't you just move on.
The fact that you haven't tells me lots.

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MrPan · 04/05/2018 16:49

The OP is about 12.