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Caitlyn Jenner to speak to parliament.

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picklemepopcorn · 04/05/2018 12:59

Oh joy. Channel 4.

Caitlyn Jenner Will Address The UK's Parliament On Diversity - BuzzFeed UKapple.news/A_t-dvNi9RB6qSgmb92Wjpg

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 06/05/2018 08:06

I think it's hilarious. TRAs going mental on twitter because they weren't picked.

Madagain going tonto because 'Trump'. But really it's because LM wasn't picked

The comments on that petition are interesting
www.change.org/p/channel-4-don-t-let-caitlyn-jenner-give-the-parliamentary-diversity-lecture/c?source_location=petition_show

noeffingidea · 06/05/2018 07:53

Oh, let them get on with it. I expect Caitlyn Jenner will present themselves in a bad light as usual.

picklemepopcorn · 06/05/2018 07:47

So a British Pakistani male actor, a black British male actor, and now Jenner.

So many other choices available. Pah.

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LassWiADelicateAir · 06/05/2018 04:46

The point of it is Jenner will give the annual keynote lecture hosted by Channel 4 in the House of Commons. The lecture was set up by the broadcaster three years ago as an opportunity for high-profile figures to speak out publicly on the importance of diversity in the entertainment industry.

2016's speaker was Idris Elba and 2017's was Riz Ahmed (I had to Google him)

Not a particularly diverse choice is it?

MadBadDaddy · 06/05/2018 02:36

I identify as a Rich Self-Fuelling Celebrity. Hear me roar "Cash, only please."

LaSqrrl · 06/05/2018 02:30

I really don't know loveyouradvice. Strange, innit?

loveyouradvice · 06/05/2018 01:41

Does anyone know why C4- or even how they pubicly explain - made such an unusual choice?

Seems utterly bizarre... so clearly a poor fit that opens them to ridicule..... and deeply unintelligent on this level - not something i would expect of decision makers at C4

BewitchedBotheredandBewildered · 06/05/2018 00:29

Maybe someone needs to explain to Ms Madigan what Diversity means?

Listening to someone who thinks differently/is different to you.

Whether you like it or not Grin

AngryAttackKittens · 05/05/2018 23:49

If an actual 60 year old woman had just gotten engaged to a 21 year old let's just take a moment to imagine how different the headlines would be.

LaSqrrl · 05/05/2018 23:14

Having Jenner speak about diversity in the Uk is like having peppa pig speak to. Parliament about vegan rights

Or perhaps more like Colonel Sanders speaking to Parliament on behalf of chicken rights?

LaSqrrl · 05/05/2018 23:12

Number: Caitlyn is against marriage equality.

Life-long Republican supporter. However, 60yo Jenner just announced and engagement to a 21yo transwoman. The Republicans might boot CJ soon. CJ crossed the Republican compulsory-heterosexuality line.

Lily's indignation is hilarious. "It should have been meeeeeeeeeeee!" LOL
In my head, I can see the accompanying foot stompies going along with that.

IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 05/05/2018 22:58

it's just pathetic star-fuckery

AngryAttackKittens · 05/05/2018 20:07

This is a valid criticism.

Many LGBTQ+ people openly dislike Caitlyn Jenner, and she is no spokesperson for diverse communities.

This is not.

Don’t mock us by putting a Trump supporter onstage to “represent” us.

I think Trump is the living embodiment of everything that's wrong with America but I assume some trans people voted for him.

MrsJayy · 05/05/2018 19:59

I watched I am cait the transwomen employed by E to be Caitlyns buddies didn't like CJ very much

AnotherQuoll · 05/05/2018 19:55

I might just say I have no pronouns, so prefer.. no, insist that no one ever use any pronouns when referring to me, whether I'm there or not. Enjoy what you've done to language kids! :-)

PositivelyPERF · 05/05/2018 19:35

This is about being fair, equal, and showing respect for trans people. Don’t mock us by putting a Trump supporter onstage to “represent” us. Many LGBTQ+ people openly dislike Caitlyn Jenner, and she is no spokesperson for diverse communities. Channel 4 need to stop with the tokenism and give the platform to someone else.

The hypocrisy is astounding. Throwing the rattle out of the pram because they don’t like who represents them, but actual women have no choice. Funny how they’re women until they’re trans, then they’re not like actual women, but still women, and so on and so on, like a merry go round.

PositivelyPERF · 05/05/2018 19:22

I swear if I ever get asked what my pronoun is, I will insist on being addressed as Lady PERF. Though, of course, since I am actually a woman, it wouldn’t be long before I would be told that that’s a transphobic pronoun. 🙄

AnotherQuoll · 05/05/2018 19:18

Madigan and the snouty one are both very cross about it all. Before the end of the week there'll probably be a whole mob of narcissists each outraged that they weren't picked instead.

Dorade · 05/05/2018 19:04

If Jenner admits to not actually being a woman, presumably we can safely refer to him as "he"?

Given that "he" is the recognised pronoun for persons of the male sex.

But, speaking generally now, if people can demand we adopt whatever pronoun they want, however grammatically incorrect or simply ludicrous, where does that stop? Can they demand we address them as "Your highness" or Napoleon Bonaparte and do we have to comply?

Men who identify as women are simply that.

Sarahconnor1 · 05/05/2018 19:00

Copied from the petition, with no further comment from me

'otherwise they are just ticking a box because they can'

Sarahconnor1 · 05/05/2018 18:52

I almost want to be a fly on the wall. Surely it escapes no one, the privilege jenner had for 60 years (and still has in many many ways)

AngryAttackKittens · 05/05/2018 18:45

Not much of a public speaker, either, it has to be said. Unless you find jokes about nicking one's daughter's pants hilarious.

Pratchet · 05/05/2018 18:44

#notoppressed

picklemepopcorn · 05/05/2018 18:36

white, straight, male, wealthy.

And successful in several fields, leading the field in sports, famous, friends with people of influence...

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Sarahconnor1 · 05/05/2018 18:30

I think LM objects because in Lilys world everything is about Lily.

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