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I am a transwoman, ask me anything.

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AriadneRose · 04/05/2018 10:08

I have been following what has been going on here and on twitter, and thought maybe it would be helpful to open a dialogue that is not reactionary or fueled by anger. So I am offering my own personal perspective as a transwoman, and am willing to answer any questions people might have, and I will try to answer them thoughtfully, respectfully and honestly.

Note: I did not create this thread to stir up trouble, I just feel open dialogue from both sides is necessary for us to move forward.

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Amalfimamma · 04/05/2018 21:01

schrodingerstwat you saying anyone else is ignorant and lacking compassion is one hell of an oxymoron......

thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 21:01

oh dear, bright, green, christ on a bike. I don't know whether to laugh, weep, or throw up.
Whatever you do always remember that no critical thinking is allowed in the transgender cult because material reality has a well known transphobic bias.

Bowlofbabelfish · 04/05/2018 21:01

Ahhh the right side of history argument.

When safeguarding provision for children has been watered down to pointlessness, and predators have exploited the loopholes so earnestly insisted on...you can point out to the children who were abused that you were on the right side of history. I’m sure they’ll understand.

Safeguarding will be dead in the water. Vulnerable kids - straight, gay, troubled, trans or just in the wrong place, will get hurt by this. Predators will exploit any loophole they can.

schrodingerstwat · 04/05/2018 20:59

Your ignorance, lack of compassion and basic disregard for humanity (and facts) only make me angry for as long as I forget this is only happening on Mumsnet. Once I remember that all I need to do is switch off this particular site and rejoin the real world where the majority views expressed on this thread are being left behind, then it all becomes much more tolerable.

thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 20:53

In years to come kids will look back on the kinds of attitudes that prevailed here today like children now must look back at racists in the days of the civil-rights-era struggles and scratch their heads.

More likely the forcibly transitioned children will use the devastation of thalidomide as an analogy for their experience. Except the thalidomide users had no warning, and we are here insisting that people stop and think what they are doing.

Amalfimamma · 04/05/2018 20:52

ust thankfully on the right side of history hmm

I'm sure mussolini said that in one of his speeches...... I'll have to go dig it out......

schrodingerstwat · 04/05/2018 20:52

@thebewilderness oh dear, bright, green, christ on a bike. I don't know whether to laugh, weep, or throw up.

schrodingerstwat · 04/05/2018 20:50

Nope, not altruistic, just thankfully on the right side of history Hmm

thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 20:48

The rights currently being advocated for by transgender advocates are antithetical to women's rights and the safekeeping of children.
There can be no further compromise because women's rights and children's safety has already been compromised to an unacceptable extent.
The erasure of women as a political class being referred to as a compromise is absurd.
Bothsiderism is a blatant lie.

SimonBridges · 04/05/2018 20:46

Welcome op. Thank you for opening this dialogue.

I’m interested that you said To me women are usually more empathetic, less prone to violence.
Do you think that part of your feeling like I woman might be that the male role models you had in your life were violent and uncaring and therefore you found that you likened yourself to women?
Is part of your dysphoria not so much that you feel like a woman but more that you feel unlike a man as you had few examples of men who were not violent arseholes?

LassWiADelicateAir · 04/05/2018 20:43

Sorry messed that last sentence up.

I am interested in the OP's personal perspective (and why the need to put quote marks ?) so the assumption of the group think "we" is patronising.

Amalfimamma · 04/05/2018 20:41

@schrodingerstwat aren't you just so altruistic Hmm

LassWiADelicateAir · 04/05/2018 20:40

Surely all women feel differently and, as individuals, feel differently everyday

They do, not that one might think that given some of the posts on here or FWR in general.

As for being patronising Coming on here offering a 'personal perspective' as if we don't know transwomen ourselves and know nothing about the issues is patronising from the start is pretty bloody patronising.

I am interested in the OP's personal perspective (and why the need to put quote marks ?) as is the assumption of group think and that everyone posting on FWR endorses it.

velourvoyageur · 04/05/2018 20:39

Schrodinger please could you quote the despicable, unbelievable vitriol directed towards the OP on this thread? I honestly am blind to it and can't improve unless it's pointed out to me.

schrodingerstwat · 04/05/2018 20:29

Ah great. Just shortly after her last post, I pm'd the OP and recommended she come off this thread and go and do something nice, involving self-care, or time spent with rational, well-informed people who don't misgender her rather than spend time on here where she is treated despicably by a load of vitriolic TERFS. Glad to see she didn't post after that. You guys (you know who you are, Spartacus-kind)... are....unbelievable. Thank God the tide is turning, legislation is swimming against you, public opinion is swimming against you, and you seem to be in your last echo-chamber on threads like these. In years to come kids will look back on the kinds of attitudes that prevailed here today like children now must look back at racists in the days of the civil-rights-era struggles and scratch their heads.

Baubletrouble43 · 04/05/2018 20:21

Ariadne I haven't read the whole thread but I have read a lot of it and I want to thank you for opening up and discussing your situation. My feelings on self id are negative but I would hate for you to interpret that as any type of hostility to you or your situation . I see that you have struggles that I cannot possibly understand and wish you all the best, genuinely.

Julie7281 · 04/05/2018 20:08

I agree. What is a woman supposed to feel like? Surely all women feel differently and, as individuals, feel differently everyday.

Plus, no offence, but how can you suppose you feel like a woman if you’re not one?

What’s wrong with being a non conforming, feminised man?

A lot of questions all at once AriadneRose but I’m genuinely interested.

LassWiADelicateAir · 04/05/2018 20:04

Coming on here offering a 'personal perspective' as if we don't know transwomen ourselves and know nothing about the issues is patronising from the start

Who is this "we" you speak of?

I don't know any trans women. And unless all trans women are passing brilliantly in shops, restaurants, pubs etc I can't even think of an occasion when I have even noticed a trans woman. So either they are passing brilliantly or more likely there are very few trans women

The only trans person I know in real life is a trans man. I do know that he does not remotely fit the image of a young woman who is really a lesbian and is being bullied into being trans.

So again who is this "we" you speak of and for? Because it certainly is not me.

PersianCatLady · 04/05/2018 19:29

OK thanks

AncientLights · 04/05/2018 19:21

PersianCatLady there's a thread on here about the letter.

PersianCatLady · 04/05/2018 19:03

Is there a link for the letter??

Tinkletinklelittlebat · 04/05/2018 18:58

Jaycee just saw your letter in the Guardian. Flowers Thank you, that was very brave and I appreciate it.

Ekphrasis · 04/05/2018 18:34

I agree with Red.

I'd hope the op comes back and joins in other discussions.

I thought the replies were very honest and interesting. She just needs to perhaps lurk a bit longer and then pitch in when it's relevant.

I did this for ages here myself and I'm a biological woman!

RidingWindhorses · 04/05/2018 17:43

I'm not personally demanding a reply. I don't care if she replies or not.

The replies she did make were fairly poor though.

If you post a thread telling people you will explain stuff but then require explaining to yourself, it's hardly surprising if people don't take you seriously.

ferntwist · 04/05/2018 15:46

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