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Hello all, man here! am i welcome to talk and learn a bit about stuff ?

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 03/05/2018 16:32

Ive done a little browsing in the feminism section and i admit its intriguing, please forgive my ignorance as i dont know alot about this all.

I just want to start by saying i was raised to respect everyone and i truly do, my view on equality is simply if some one, man or woman is good enough to do the specific job they aspire for then they have every right to get said job/goal, again if this is slight ignorance forgive me, i post this topic because i would like to learn and be less ignorant, love me some knowledge.. :)

So i suppose my question is broad and depends on the individual person's view, but what is the over reaching/ultimate goal of feminism ? or what does it mean to you personally ? and please, dont think im trolling or anything i genuinely want to learn a thing or two, thanks :)

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PerfectlyDone · 04/05/2018 21:46

Teaching children about the mechanics of sex is the easy bit - it's navigating relationships in all their messy gloriousness is much, much harder.

I do not think that schools have to teach, dunno, technique.
IME while every generation thinks that they have invented sex, they all tend to figure it out quite nicely.

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 21:42

I dont know how it is know but my sex education was simply like men and women make children, i have seen and read issues for that in terms of what about homosexual and lesbian sex ? that isnt covered for youth questioning/knowing their sexuality.

with however many sexualities and genders whatever that keep getting produced, sex education in school must be hell.

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PerfectlyDone · 04/05/2018 21:39

WTF? Really? Porn in schools?
I've do imagine I've heard it all now... FFS.

PerfectlyDone · 04/05/2018 21:38

Oh, I hate 'peeps' for being to twee, but do take your point about 'guys' Smile

I know 'pimping' as assumed the meaning of 'doing up' etc but that does not in my eyes make it any less distasteful tbh even though I am quite sure I will have used it, I think being aware of where words come from is important

I love language. I think it is fascinating how it evolves, but word that change meaning usually do for a reason.

thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 21:38

He is typing one handed, isn't he?

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 21:36

PerfectlyDone compared to what women do, periods and pregnancy, i dont really know what a male comparison could be and right there is i suppose men have it easier, i wont ever bleed monthly or have the pain of child birth, i use hard-on simply because women, wont get a hard-on lol.

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ToeToToe · 04/05/2018 21:36

Hate the term "pimp my..."

Also "...porn" - like "property porn"

Just normalises this stuff.

Until we get the stage we are today with Dr Christian suggesting porn in schools for sex education. Last I heard, hey were trying to keep porn out of schools Hmm

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 04/05/2018 21:35

quack yeah i thought so too

Which is why i was going to run away from the thread

thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 21:35

I hate the expression 'pimp my anything' - really?! How does tuning a car or prettifying anything compare to controlling women who sell sex for money?! Hideous phrase.

Me too.
I started using guys as a generic term in the eighties but subsequently shifted to people or peeps because of the way all groups are assumed to be made up of males unless non-males are designated as included. Out of interest that gender advocates are trying to shift the language to erase half the population I resist.

QuackPorridgeBacon · 04/05/2018 21:35

Goady* not today.

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 21:33

PerfectlyDone i dont pretend to know why the word "pimp" was used, i suppose it could of been called anything but like i say depending on age range i think it just becomes a norm to use it.

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PerfectlyDone · 04/05/2018 21:33

I say 'improve'

Grin
QuackPorridgeBacon · 04/05/2018 21:32

I think “hard on” was inappropriate to be honest. You cannot use that and childbirth in the same analogy. A kick in the balls would be more appropriate. That seems a little today, even to me.

PerfectlyDone · 04/05/2018 21:32

Ha!
Wonderful cross-post, Please Grin

You do understand that words have meaning, and while every living language does change, certain connotations deserve at least being aware of or comment.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 04/05/2018 21:32

I always say jazz it up

Or maybe funk it up if i am feeling particularly hip and trendy Grin

Or jhooz it up...ive no idea where that one came from...I'm betting I haven't spelt it right

PerfectlyDone · 04/05/2018 21:31

WARNING: SUBVERSIVE COMMENT COMING UP

I like the use of 'guys' as a generic, casual address to a group of whoever, but I also have short hair, wear dresses rarely, makeup even more rarely and by definition should really be at least a lesbian, if not trans, but, alas am a woman.

Now, see, if feminism ran the world, none of the above would be any kind of issue and would not deserve mention.

I hate the expression 'pimp my anything' - really?! How does tuning a car or prettifying anything compare to controlling women who sell sex for money?! Hideous phrase.

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 21:31

thebewilderness perhaps, but if i modify a car for example, my age being 25 and group being maybe 20 - 30 pimp would be the go-to word whereas maybe some who's 50 would simply say modify maybe, theres ways to go about things in all matters and as said good or bad im a people pleaser and want to make people happy so ill adapt, culture and teaching comes into it i think personally.

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thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 21:29

Old men enjoy watching women's faces when they use the term pimp to remind women that they view us as things.

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 21:27

I feel more comfortable with people who are older than me, i wont say im mature by any standard but at 25 i dont like the way my age group is therefore i like conversation with older men and women, plus the fact of life stories and experience coupled with my lonmging to learn things i dont know, i looooooove knowledge lol..

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thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 21:27

i know what a pimp is but at my age i would use the word pimp in meaning of flashing up an object
That is because you are a man, not because of your age.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 04/05/2018 21:26

Yeah like pimp my ride

thebewilderness · 04/05/2018 21:26

I think posters like leggere are like sort of Dementors of the FWR section - sucking all the joy out of intelligent deer-related debate.

I think your assessment is correct. This particular hectorer, hectorist, congratulated themselves on their hectoring success a few pages back, so we should prolly accept that they are indeed here to hector.

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 21:24

I wont assume ages, theres an obvious generational change between word use through the age groups, i read one post about the use of "pimp" yes, i know what a pimp is but at my age i would use the word pimp in meaning of flashing up an object

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 21:22

Rufustheyawningreindeer yes, to me "guys" is just a general saying but like thge example youve provided there other ways of wording it and thats what i mean, even if a small change like saying everybody instead of guys help then ill try to adapt my speech.

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PleaseCustomizeCharacter · 04/05/2018 21:20

QuackPorridgeBacon apologies for the many consectutive posts indeed, through lurking i have seen one or two comments saying some take offense to it as guys does technically stand for men, obviously individual opinions matter but if a larger consensus took offense to it i would take note.

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