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AskBasil · 03/05/2018 09:18

A lot of Twitter transactivists think Mumsnet is transphobic. Every time women ask for a definition of transphobic, they get blocked, so you may be confused as to whether you're transphobic or not. So I thought I'd be helpful and give you a few examples of what you must not believe, if you don't want to be a transphobe.

If you believe any of the following, you are transphobic:

  • Female mammals gestate their young in their wombs. This includes human mammals.
  • Only females menstruate.
  • A penis is a male organ
  • A vagina is a female organ
  • You can find out whether your baby will be a girl or a boy by going for a scan
  • The duchess of Cambridge has given birth to a baby boy.
  • Gay men have male bodies and want to sleep with other men with male bodies
  • Lesbians have female bodies and want to sleep with people with female bodies
  • A woman is an adult human female. A female in this context, means of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes
  • A man is an adult human male. Male in this context means of or denoting the sex that produces gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring.

These are just some of the basic things you need to stop believing if you want to ensure you don't engage in wrongthink. I hope this is helpful and will guide you in ensuring that you learn to think correctly and stop being a terrible bigot.

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R0wantrees · 03/05/2018 17:26

Thinking of going to listen to a WPUK meeting?

This is a campaign formed specifically to ensure women’s voices are heard in the debate around proposals to change the Gender Recognition Act (2004).

WPUK have 5 demands

  1. Respectful and evidence-based discussion about the impact of the proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act to be allowed to take place and for women’s voices to be heard.

2.The principle of women-only spaces to be upheld – and where necessary extended.

  1. A review of how the exemptions in the Equality Act which allow or single sex services or requirements that only a woman can apply for a job (such as in a domestic violence refuge) are being applied in practice.
  1. Government to consult with women’s organisations on how self-declaration would impact on women-only services and spaces.
  1. Government to consult on how self-declaration will impact upon data gathering – such as crime, employment, pay and health statistics – and monitoring of sex-based discrimination such as the gender pay gap

womansplaceuk.org

-this means you not just transphobic but akin to becoming a member of the KKKK or Nazi party.

TheVastMajority · 03/05/2018 17:26

Grin @FermatsTheorem

"under Birds' Eye" - genius!

TheSecretMole · 03/05/2018 17:24

These are very useful guidelines, thank you.

It would be very interesting to see in writing what Mumsnet considers to be transphobic/worthy of deletion though.

Transpeaked · 03/05/2018 17:24

Medical and biological text book publishers are going to be very busy.

Amalfimamma · 03/05/2018 17:23

@AskBasil going to hell them because I believe each and every one. Of those statements and more.

Please point me to the naughty step

FermatsTheorem · 03/05/2018 17:20

Bless me non gender specific auntie for I have sinned.

(Bobs head respectfully). "Under Birds' Eye."

DuddlePluck · 03/05/2018 17:15

Ian Huntley shouldn't be able to ID as a woman, and be moved to the female prison estate

I've seen someone who wrote that being called out as transphobic, so it must be a really TERFy, nasty Nazi thing to say... Angry

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 03/05/2018 17:09

How about
-You don't accept the mantra that "Some women have dicks"

TotallyLibrarianPoo · 03/05/2018 17:09

Apparently losing my bits to endometriosis ( sorry that one pissed me off )[mad]

TERFragetteCity · 03/05/2018 17:09

So you on MUMsnet are you?

You bigot.

Men can have babies too.

It should be Mansnet.

And soon will be.

corlan · 03/05/2018 17:08

I knew my O Level in English Lit would come in handy one day.It's Doublethink from George Orwell's '1984'.

"To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic."

tinytemper66 · 03/05/2018 17:06

I couldn`t give a hoot. I have a vagina so I am a WOMAN!

Elendon · 03/05/2018 17:04

Also remember that towns with the names of Penistone and Scunthorpe are transphobic as well.

As well as women's internal reproductive organs.

PermissionToSpeakSir · 03/05/2018 17:03

Some clarity at last!

Thanks basil

I was finding it so hard trying to work out what I am and am not allowed to think.

Hopefully I won't be 'called out' and publicly humiliated for my unforgivable transphobia any more if I can just. manage. to. stop. trusting. my. own. senses. and. memories..

Ooh now this is quite tricky... but I think I am nearly there...

I feel lighter..

I am transformed!

Praise be!

Now all I need to do is spread the word! with force

PerspicaciaTick · 03/05/2018 17:01

Wanting to go for a wee without having to battle through a scrum of gender-excited students - transphobic.

leyat · 03/05/2018 16:57

OP brilliant post :D

AskAuntLydia · 03/05/2018 16:54

"I think a transwoman with a penis sleeping in the same tent as a girl guide is a safeguarding issue".

That's transphobic.

Don't worry about teenage girls, that just means you're a bigot.

R0wantrees · 03/05/2018 10:02

Can I add 'not calling yourself cis woman'?

AngryAttackKittens · 03/05/2018 09:59

Oh yeah, there's another one. Butch lesbian who stubbornly insists that no, actually, you're not a man, nor do you want to be? Bigot.

According to whichever group of idiots protested Glasgow Pride a while back drag queens are also transphobic.

MaterialReality · 03/05/2018 09:57

Gruffalo - well, I might think it is! But I was adding to the list of transphobic statements. I've had comments deleted on news sites because pointing out that a little boy who likes dolls and dresses would be fine if his parents weren't so attached to rigid gender stereotypes and let him get on with it. That doesn't fit the brave little trans girl narrative.

AngryAttackKittens · 03/05/2018 09:55

OK with some peens, but not the particular one that's demanding your attention at this very moment? Bigot.

(This one works for regular non-dress-wearing MRAs too)

LaSqrrl · 03/05/2018 09:53

Unimpressed by the Almighty LadyPeenâ„¢ whilst living as lesbian?
Bigot.

GruffaloPants · 03/05/2018 09:51

Material - isn't it sexist to say some toys are for boys, others for girls? That's where all this madness starts!

GruffaloPants · 03/05/2018 09:50

Thanks Basil. Very helpful. Will try to assimilate.

Not sure about the word "aunt" though. Very exclusionary. How about a new gender neutral word. Uncunt perhaps?

AngryAttackKittens · 03/05/2018 09:50

Are you female? Do you not hate yourself for it?

Bigot.