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Are you inadvertently being transphobic? Find out here

133 replies

AskBasil · 03/05/2018 09:18

A lot of Twitter transactivists think Mumsnet is transphobic. Every time women ask for a definition of transphobic, they get blocked, so you may be confused as to whether you're transphobic or not. So I thought I'd be helpful and give you a few examples of what you must not believe, if you don't want to be a transphobe.

If you believe any of the following, you are transphobic:

  • Female mammals gestate their young in their wombs. This includes human mammals.
  • Only females menstruate.
  • A penis is a male organ
  • A vagina is a female organ
  • You can find out whether your baby will be a girl or a boy by going for a scan
  • The duchess of Cambridge has given birth to a baby boy.
  • Gay men have male bodies and want to sleep with other men with male bodies
  • Lesbians have female bodies and want to sleep with people with female bodies
  • A woman is an adult human female. A female in this context, means of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes
  • A man is an adult human male. Male in this context means of or denoting the sex that produces gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring.

These are just some of the basic things you need to stop believing if you want to ensure you don't engage in wrongthink. I hope this is helpful and will guide you in ensuring that you learn to think correctly and stop being a terrible bigot.

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 03/05/2018 18:51

Not knowing someone's pronouns just by looking at them is pretty transphobic.

Pink pussy hats are transphobic and exclusionary.

Elendon · 03/05/2018 18:37

Yes, why not daily mail transphobia or daily telegraph transphobia or the times transphobia?

Why mumsnet transphobia?

Popchyk · 03/05/2018 18:26

Blessed Be the Fruit shoot

Very fitting.

OlennasWimple · 03/05/2018 18:15

I read the title and much of the thread hearing Riley J Dennis' voice...

Have we covered "If you are a lesbian that doesn't want to involve a penis in your sexual activities then you are a transphobe?"

Popchyk · 03/05/2018 18:11

You can't just write a list, Basil.

You have to take your message to the masses. That's what Jesus did. And look what happened to him

You have to offer workshops and materials where only you may preside over affairs. This is to ensure that the message is not diluted or corrupted.

Government officials in particular need to be educated, so taxpayers' money must be handed over to you in consultancy fees.

Mossandclover · 03/05/2018 18:11

For clarification; ‘Bigot’ mean ‘being tolerant and prepared to listen to other people’s opinions especially women’s’.

numberseven · 03/05/2018 18:10

Calling my newborn 'he'. It was transphobic not to call my baby 'they' until they pick their own pronoun. I hope they choose something I can pronounce. Hmm

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 03/05/2018 18:07

Dont - it's from the handmaids tale - there's these formal greetings that people say:

Blessed be the fruit
Under his eye

etc. And people are encouraging Birdseye to stop advertising until us unruly women get in line...

It's sheer genius.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/05/2018 18:06

It was the intersection of discussions about the products of a company who advertises on MN (fishfingers, peas) and The Handmaids Tale 'blessed be the fruit; under his eye'

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 03/05/2018 18:06

Under Birds' Eye

Christ, lucky I managed to hold onto my mouthful of tea reading that.. that's it, that's my signoff from now on.

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 03/05/2018 18:02

Argh I don't get the under birds eye thing.
I've seen the twitter thread and potato comments but don't get it.
Heeeellppp?! Blush

thebewilderness · 03/05/2018 18:01

FWR is a hotbed of uppity women violating of the 5th rule of misogyny: Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/05/2018 17:56

Tone and context? Context: predominantly female forum. Tone: assertive. Reckon that makes biological facts transphobic?Confused

DuddlePluck · 03/05/2018 17:56

I've got another one another one

Oops. I've also got an echo.

Mogleflop · 03/05/2018 17:54

Well in their defence you can see how literally all of Mumsnet is transphobic based on that list.

God help them if they ever read Daily Mail comments.

DuddlePluck · 03/05/2018 17:50

Ooh, I've got another one another one!

It's definitely, definitely NEVER ok to admit you haven't got a 'gender identity'; that's incredibly TERFy and probably rather Nazi too.

I tried explaining how hard I'd searched for mine - down the back of the sofa; behind all the crap in the garden shed; in the toolbox & all the random boxes of 'it'll come in handy some day' bits & bobs I've collected over the years; even in the pockets of the purple stripy jacket I'd not worn for 4 or 5 years - everywhere. But could I find it? No. And the fact I proved unable to locate the elusive bugger means I'm definitely a transphobe. Apparently.

Wink
flowersonthepiano · 03/05/2018 17:50

What about pitch Besmirching?
"under Birds' Eye" Grin

BesmirchingMotherhood · 03/05/2018 17:44

On the intertubenetwebs. Tone.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 03/05/2018 17:43

Tone.

BesmirchingMotherhood · 03/05/2018 17:43

Tone is transphobic.

LangCleg · 03/05/2018 17:41

Under Bird's Eye is the best ever. It should be our motto!

I sneezed earlier. I'm pretty sure this is transphobic. Since we have established the only sure thing left in the world is that fish fingers are not transphobic, I'm going to eat four of them as my mea culpa.

MonsoonMama · 03/05/2018 17:36

Don't forget facts. Just facts, generally. A loose, shifting constellation of facts. Yep, if you believe in facts, that's transphobic.

Are you inadvertently being transphobic?  Find out here
Popchyk · 03/05/2018 17:29

Cross-posted.

I will start using it forthwith.

Popchyk · 03/05/2018 17:29

"Under Bird's Eye".

Very good, Fermat.

FermatsTheorem · 03/05/2018 17:27

@TheVastMajority - genius, but not my genius lemon came up with it on another thread.