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Hi Mumsnet, if you are asking feminist women to consider whether Mumsnet is for them, please be clear that the space *we* made here is for *all* of us.

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leyat · 02/05/2018 23:41

So apparently MNHQ is asking women they are suspending for saying things like men are men, to consider whether Mumsnet is for them.

I feel it's important to be clear that we want feminist women to have a home here, we - all the women who engage here - have made this board what it is (I'm relatively new so I am in awe of the women who have been shaping this wonderful space all this time) and we don't want women excluded from this space because they won't lie about biology and acquiesce to misogyny and genderism.

This is meant to be a kind of refuge for us, where we do not have to submit to male authority, where we can let off steam and share without needing to worry about dealing with misogyny, and where we can feel a degree of safety and find sisterhood. I can't think of anything more awful than a woman who comes here to share in this, in this one space we have that's meant to be ours, to then be told she should consider excluding herself because she won't bow to male authority on what a woman is.

So it needs saying, Mumsnet, this is a board for all feminist women, we don't want anyone excluded or made to feel that this space isn't for them too. And please understand many women come here from backgrounds of abuse, we do live in a climate of male violence and misogyny that is currently getting worse, so I hope MNHQ take time to ask themselves how they want to treat women who come here. Mumsnet own the site, but it's the women who use this space who made it the vibrant refuge of sisterhood and resistance that it is, so please don't shit on that or indeed on the women who actually engage on your forum.

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Terfulike · 03/05/2018 00:16

Great post

Itscurtainsforyou · 03/05/2018 00:14

Yep

MipMipMip · 03/05/2018 00:12

Well said.

LuisCarol · 03/05/2018 00:09

Agreed.

AngryAttackKittens · 03/05/2018 00:03

There's a "first they came for the..." metaphor in there.

Who'll be left to stand up for you, MNHQ, when the most strong willed women on your site have either been driven off or left in disgust?

FermatsTheorem · 03/05/2018 00:02

I've bumped the Spartacus biology thread.

That way they've got a nice one-stop shop to ban all of us, and we've got a nice thread for James Kirkup and Janice Turner to read! A mass banning of several hundred users for pointing out the bleeding obvious, namely that transwomen remain biologically male, however much they wish things were otherwise, and however much sympathy one has with their plight, would play well in the press, I think.

leyat · 03/05/2018 00:02

I agree, such an important space, I really hope they have a rethink...

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greenlanes · 03/05/2018 00:00

Wow. I just can't believe this. Mumsnet has been my haven over the last few years. Full of bright intelligent women who always have something to say. I might not like it , I may not agree but it is conversation that I cannot get anywhere else in my life.

BeUpStanding · 02/05/2018 23:58

Yes. I agree entirely. This is such an important space for women to speak freely and it's horrendous to think we are losing it.

auntycartmanslargertesticle · 02/05/2018 23:55

well said.

TeresasGreen · 02/05/2018 23:53

❤️

MonsoonMama · 02/05/2018 23:47

Great post

BlackForestCake · 02/05/2018 23:44

Wonderful post.