Trans Media Watch has written to parliament saying 'trans identified male' can be considered as hate speech, and that Mumsnet users referring to penises are being transphobic.

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Seeing your username say that was one of the funniest things that’s happened to me in ages

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Hatespeak forsooth

Im just here to say im not going anywhere. They wont silence me. I will ALWAYS resist! Womens rights are my rights and the rights of every female. Men can fuck off!

Where are the women MPs in all of this? Why aren't they standing up for women?

the test will be if any MPs actually take this shit seriously

I don't know the chronology but if this paper was submitted before Stephen Doughty MP's questions to newspaper editors, then perhaps yes?

Changing sex for the purposes of legal recognition then, is not about changing biology or changing bodies to �match� genders, but about changing how sex is legally defined. In that sense �having a sex change� has a different meaning with new political consequences and challenges.

YES THERE ARE POLITICAL CONSEQUENCES AND NOW IS THE TIME YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEM

This is what the government unleashed on women

8.8 The Gender Recognition Act enables legal �sex changes� - what legally constitutes male and female has changed. We share Sandland�s (2005) view that as we can now have men with vaginas and women with penises, the act does undermine the binary of two morphologically distinct sexes. We also agree that this poses no challenge to the idea that there are legally only two sexes (Sandland, 2005; Cowan 2005). However, what it means to be legally recognised as a man or a woman has now been redefined as it is not based on the body or biology. Thus, the Gender Recognition Act may not undermine the threat that trans people pose to the binary system of sex/gender (Sandland 2005; Cowan 2005). There are still only two legal sexes to choose from, but Gender Recognition Certificates will not be forcibly issued to all trans people � regardless of where they may place themselves on the gender spectrum; nor will all trans people wish to apply for one. Rather, the Gender Recognition Act offers those transsexual people who do identify as men or women, the right to be legally recognised as such even if one is a woman with a penis or a man with a vagina. The privileges afforded by legal recognition and gendered belonging should never be underestimated (Prosser 1998) and the desire for these does not make gender/sexual dissidents �apolitical and acquiescent� (Morland 2007: 13). Changing sex for the purposes of legal recognition then, is not about changing biology or changing bodies to �match� genders, but about changing how sex is legally defined. In that sense �having a sex change� has a different meaning with new political consequences and challenges.

I think we're already too far down the rabbit hole on this...any MPs how see this for what it is may be too scared to go against the flow...or rather the tidal wave.

people who have a rape weapon built into their bodies

Analogy: If I have a gun handcuffed to my wrist, others will understandably fear that I might shoot them. Whether I am happy about the gun being there is irrelevant to how others will perceive me based on its presence.

I just read Stephen Whittles paper which someone linked to and it's made me feel completely Ill it's so full of shit.

It does rather smack of a small child sticking up their hand and saying, ‘Miss, Miss, Suzie said a rude word to Johnny’.

I feel ill

The police apparently record hate incidents but I can't find any references to where they are recorded and what follows from them being recorded.

This is all to stop us from talking about biological reality, because slogans like "trans women are women" are intended to obfuscate the reality of allowing people who have a rape weapon built into their bodies into intimate spaces with people who have no such rape weapon and can become pregnant.

Ooh! I don't know why or how that female symbol appeared but I'm very glad that it did!

Well whatever response we may chose to make, count me in 🙋‍♀️

They will do anything and everything to try to silence us. This is just the start, I suspect it's going to get worse. We are all just going to have to keep going forward as best we can. They cannot win, we can't allow that there is far too much at stake.

leyat You wouldn't even need to commit a crime for it to be logged as a hate incident though. I don't know if having a hate incident logged against you would show up in a DBS check or not.

the test will be if any MPs actually take this shit seriously

leyat

at this point...

When were we not?

*exceeded