Linda Bellos arrested **Title edited by MNHQ to make clear that she was in fact 'interviewed under caution'**

I do wonder what instructions police are under when an alleged transgender hate crime is reported. Because they seem to investigate every tiny thing.

Whereas Channel 4 news suggests that police "screen out nearly a third of crimes" without any investigation.

How come they are investigating missbonita when even the police themselves don't think a crime has been committed in that case? Why are they doing that?

I presume that a Freedom of Information Request would tell us how many alleged transgender hate crimes are reported to police and how many are subsequently investigated by police.

I support Linda. This is the most outrageous use of police time as well as being an utter disgrace. As PPs have said, where is the police presence when a woman gets a fist to the face, or thrown down the stairs, or physically and emotionally abused by someone who is supposed to love them.

These absolute twats go too far. I genuinely don’t understand why they are being given the oxygen to continue their ridiculous crusade to grind women into dust. I don’t understand why politicians are listening to them and I don’t understand why people seem to have lost their critical thinking faculties.

I’ve seen the clip numerous times on Twitter. It’s been cut to appear that Linda would attack ANY trans person. It’s used by Mermaids amongst others, to show the “hatred and violence directed towards trans people”. I and others have pointed out it has been cut and pasted, they do nothing.

This is now getting serious.

Any legal bods out there? Can Linda make a complaint to the Police about the person who cut that video to deliberately misrepresent her?

Twitter passed on Posies, I think - not MN.

I believe they passed on Posie's too. IamNotDarling

Oh my god. This is madness.

"I was spoken to by the Police due a MN thread - that happened in July last year."

Wtaf?? About the trans-rights stuff?

missbonita MN passed on your details?

This. Is. Bullshit.

I am so over all of this. It isn't worth more words, we've said it all. This has become the very zenith of insanity. The men are scared of Linda Bellos - yep, do me a favour. So now you can't even state an intent to defend yourself in the face of attack. I'm so angry right now.

I support you Linda.

I was spoken to by the Police due a MN thread - that happened in July last year. It completely freaked me out even thou the police told me I had done nothing wrong.

So for example someone who looks like a trans person may
also experience transphobia.

Well shit, that could equally apply to me and most of The females I work with, none of us look cracking at 6 am.

According to press for change, a transphobic hate crime is anything perceived as transphobic, including by witnesses. You don't even actually have to BE trans to be considered a victim of transphobic hate crime.

By this logic you could be accused of transphobic hate crime against a non trans person who did not agree with the accusation.

Quotes from their site:

The key to this definition is ‘perception’. If the victim or witness perceives that it was transphobic then it should be logged by the police as transphobic. Even if the victim does not perceive it is a hate crime a witness may.

You do not have to prove you are trans to be a victim of transphobic hate crime. It is not like the other trans legislation where you have to say you are ‘intending to undergo, are undergoing or have undergone gender reassignment’. So for example someone who looks like a trans person may also experience transphobia.

I'm appalled by the crumbling of our society's principles of fairness and truth and democracy
I'm starting to wonder if they were ever there. All of this makes me realise how much men and the establishment and institutions actually hate women.

Does anyone have a transcript of what Linda actually said regarding defending herself?

I thought they all hated carceral feminism and want to abolish prisons? For people that believe this they seem very quick to call in the cops.

The police must have been shown the cut version, not the original.
Surely that's wasting police time or something?

I wonder if those two blokes who sang that 'TERFs are traaaaaaash' ditty about a brick to the teeth and kerb stomping have been 'interviewed under caution' yet?

Absolutely fucking outrageous. And everything BarrackerBarmer said.

Yes but at the same time, leave it to the TRAs to twist, manipulate, dramatise, and extrapolate wildly.

She wasn't arrested. She was interviewed. The facts in these situations speak for themselves. And should be stated accurately.

There's always requests to livestream events like this and I understand the appeal to make events accessible but this would put me off.

Utterly horrified to think a feminist response to male violence would be challenged in this way by police

Getting the language right is important, of course, but to the average person in the street (or on Twitter) somebody asked to attend a police station to talk to police under caution or otherwise is tainted. 'No smoke without fire' and so on. I don't expect the TRAs will hold back here and make sure they use the correct terminology. They're still saying that Posie is under police investigation although my understanding is that the CPS has indicated that there will be no charges in her case.

They have been trying to misrepresent Linda's comments since the event. But I am angry and sad that the police are giving credence to these claims. What about all the threats of violence against women? Not only in relation to trans issues but in general. Where is the appetite to take every emotionally and physically abusive man in for questioning?

I hope Linda is getting support and advice from her friends and contacts in RL.

This is utterly fucking unbelievable.

I've met Linda: she's tiny.

What a joke.

How dare women even hint about fighting back to men's violence?

If that's the YouTube clip I'm thinking of, it's been doing the rounds for a while, as evidence of 'TERFs inciting violence'.

In fact on another thread just earlier today I saw a screenshot of Heather Peto advising Tara Wolf to use it as a defence of why Tara punched Maria Maclachlan.

I saw the section of Linda's talk that was doing the rounds on FB. Her comment was deliberately cut, such that it was taken out of context.

Total manipulation.