Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

MNHQ Deletion Policy

935 replies

TheUterati · 30/04/2018 17:03

Earlier today the Trans Park Run thread was deleted in its entirety because SOME posts alleging cheating were deemed to be 'not in the spirit' of MN.

We have a thread about that running.

I have just been deleted on the Heather Peto thread for posting this:

"Bless..."

A post intended to be mildly dismissive.

That was deleted for breaking talk guidelines.

Give me a fucking break MNHQ.

"Bless..." gets a deletion!??!?!

TRA really have got you on a short chain, haven't they?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
5
ReluctantCamper · 30/04/2018 21:42

and no picking me off Rufustheconstantreindeer. Is this the bit where the tastiest looking person gets eaten?

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 21:41
RefuseToDenounceBiology · 30/04/2018 21:41

An atrocious ciscunt! Grin

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 30/04/2018 21:41

Refuse
miscrecunt? I'm one of those

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 21:41

Nah i reckon cunt is still fine

Or woo as we say in my house

ReluctantCamper · 30/04/2018 21:40

I think the problem is that your definition of transphobic and mine vary wildly IWillReportAllTransphobicPosts.

I've gone a got my Oxford dictionary down from the shelf (you made me get off my arse, I hope you're all pleased with yourselves).

Woman: noun, adult human female
Female: adjective, of the offspring bearing sex

So that gives us

Woman = adult human of the offspring bearing sex.

Now as long as I don't yawn, hopefully this post can stand.

Ellenripleysalienbaby · 30/04/2018 21:40

Or must I say ciscunt now?

An atrocious ciscunt!

AngryAttackKittens · 30/04/2018 21:40

I am unsure if the mods understand that these people came to hurt Mumsnet, not the women who comment here.

What I'm getting from the mod comments in this thread is a. no, they don't understand that, and b. they don't care if the non-TRA women who comment here are hurt.

I reported the odd PM I received a couple of hours ago, and have been asking for clarification on what user data mods currently have access to for about as long. Response? Nothing.

Hygge says that she's been asking to have her history deleted even since the data breach and she's being ignored too.

AnitaLovesVictor · 30/04/2018 21:38

The definition of Woman according to the Oxford English Dictionary - both the hard copy I hold in my hand, and the 'google' online definition is "Adult human female."

Words have meanings. Language has established definitions - otherwise none of us know where we are.

Swichala · 30/04/2018 21:36

I just got deleted for posting dictionary definitions of the words Female and Woman
Well that’s ridiculous, if we can’t even post the definition of words then debate is truly dead on mn, how can discussion of feminist issues, happen if we’re not even allowed to define what we’re talking about, dictionaries are banned content now? Hmm

female
ADJECTIVE

1Of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes.

woman
NOUN

1An adult human female.
‘a jury of seven women and five men’
as modifier ‘a woman doctor’

--yawn
VERB

1no object Involuntarily open one's mouth wide and inhale deeply due to tiredness or boredom.
‘he began yawning and looking at his watch’--

whatyadoing · 30/04/2018 21:36

Surprised MNHQ haven't got a splinter in their arse from sitting on the fence.

CoteDAzur · 30/04/2018 21:36

"Really cote. Was it a literal definition"

Yes. It went something like ^Your DD may be womanly ("feminine") but is not a woman as per dictionary definitions Woman = Adult human female, where Female = Of the sex that can bear young or make eggs.

@MNHQ - I would really like to understand why that post was deleted. Are we now considered too sensitive to deal with dictionary definitions now? Confused

KnittinKitten · 30/04/2018 21:36

Are we going to have to start screen shotting all our posts now in order to know what was deleted and stand any chance of following a thread?

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 30/04/2018 21:36

Cunt.

Can I still say cunt?

Or must I say ciscunt now?

AngryAttackKittens · 30/04/2018 21:36

For the record - authoritarianism is not a progressive position. Forcing other people to do what you want by threatening them is coercive and controlling and if you do it you do not in any sense have the moral high ground.

And that's just IWill. Super explicitly tied their attempt at coercive control in with an implied threat of legal action against anyone who won't obey them.

You know what, you two? You're the baddies.

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2018 21:35

Actually it is a problem

Censorship (and reporting) relies on how you define transphobia.

What one person thinks is transphobic another might disagree with.

I also believe strongly that in processing and understanding you NEED to have tolerance in that. Policing how things are phrased does not allow people to explore issues on their own terms.

AND YES it has to be on their own terms not the terms of someone else.

This is why I never could.

I never could do things well enough or to the right standard.

It left me more resentful than over the actual concept. It was THIS not being trans that ultimately was the bigger hurdle.

I ask you to reflect on that.

When you 'defend' your child you do so in a way that feels aggressive to others. That feeds this monster of a cycle of frustration, lack of ability to communicate and utter resentment.

You become part of the problem rather than the solution you think you are imposing.

LET IT GO.

Give some leway. I know what this does and how it destroys.

TheUterati · 30/04/2018 21:35

@MNHQ

We tried the They go Low and We go High, and this is your response?

Well, fair warning - I shall continue to state biological facts and to quote the dictionary definitions of male and female, man and woman, boy and girl, as @Cote did.

You will have to ban me if you want my silence.

@IWillReport - have at it.

OP posts:
Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 21:35
RefuseToDenounceBiology · 30/04/2018 21:34

Penis/testicles/prostate/XY= Male
Vulva/ovaries/womb/XX = female

Is that transphobic?

Will it get deleted?

thebewilderness · 30/04/2018 21:33

I wonder if we are being harassed/modded by the rogue intern's friend?

OlennasWimple · 30/04/2018 21:33

I'm bored of it already Rufus

AnitaLovesVictor · 30/04/2018 21:33

Cote posted a dictionary definition of the word Woman.

MNHQ - wtf is going on?

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 21:32

Oh its like one of those scary movies where people get picked off one by one

I dont like it

CoteDAzur · 30/04/2018 21:32

"If you discuss things using transphobic language I will report you."

What would non-transphobic language look like then, if even dictionary definitions are deemed "transphobic"? Confused

AnitaLovesVictor · 30/04/2018 21:31

I would like an answer to TheUterati's questions, MNHQ.

I would also like to ask if stating biological facts, as supported by evidence-based, widely accepted science - is going to be deleted in future?

An example - A penis is not a female organ, it is a male sex organ. I'm assuming this factual statement would be allowed to stand on a women's feminism forum?

Swipe left for the next trending thread