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TheUterati · 30/04/2018 17:03

Earlier today the Trans Park Run thread was deleted in its entirety because SOME posts alleging cheating were deemed to be 'not in the spirit' of MN.

We have a thread about that running.

I have just been deleted on the Heather Peto thread for posting this:

"Bless..."

A post intended to be mildly dismissive.

That was deleted for breaking talk guidelines.

Give me a fucking break MNHQ.

"Bless..." gets a deletion!??!?!

TRA really have got you on a short chain, haven't they?

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Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 23:04

pratchet

No
No
Dunno

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 30/04/2018 23:04

Honestly...the fucking liberty

Grin yeah fucker

Pratchet · 30/04/2018 23:03

Can someone tell me what happens if you are deleted. Do you get an email? Do you get suspended or is it like three strikes and out?

Ereshkigal · 30/04/2018 23:03

So the biological truth is transwomen are "men pretending to be women"?

"Pretending to be women" is a question of framing. They're male. Adult human males are men. You could say that their claim of womanhood is a pretence. Because they will always be adult human males. You're not going to force people to accept your belief system, you know.

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 23:02

refuse

I can't fucking believe they fucking did that

Honestly...the fucking liberty

ReluctantCamper · 30/04/2018 23:02

you can truly rule the echo chamber of your dreams!

no. no echo chamber wanted. but people who are capable of debate, who don't want to shut people up, demand compliance. those people are welcome.

AnitaLovesVictor · 30/04/2018 23:02

The absolute fucking narcissism of trying to control women's language and conversation like this - it does give me the rage. How dare you tell us we can't use certain words to describe our own biology? Our own experience of being born female, of going through female puberty?

It's Breastfeeding not chest feeding. Only women can pregnant, and women do not have penises. We are women, not menstruators. We have wombs and vaginas - and these are part of the female reproductive system.

Human beings cannot change their sex (even Lily Madigan tweeted that this is not transphobic) - and woman has an actual definition - which is not attack on anyone.

LangCleg · 30/04/2018 23:02

You cannot mandate perception or belief. It's a fool's errand.

PoulaFisch · 30/04/2018 23:01

Ereshkigal

That sentence alone could be seen by many people as openly transphobic. Could it not?

Only the hard of thinking ones. I have no animosity towards this subset of the male class as a whole. But I do not and will not believe they are women. It's as simple as that.
Fwiw I do respect that is your opinion but do you really think trans men/women people are pretending? Just playing dress up?

Pratchet · 30/04/2018 23:01

Are you going to screenshot that too? The mothership must be having a paaartaaay tonight.

ReluctantCamper · 30/04/2018 23:01

Ha! I love the fact that you can't being yourself to type fuck SupermatchGame. Go on leave out the star, type the whole word. it's most liberating.

Pratchet · 30/04/2018 23:00

Poula: inevitably. They aren't women. Some genuinely believe they are women, but if there's a choice of pretence and delusion, I consider pretence to be less offensive.

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 30/04/2018 23:00

Some posters are allowed to lie

Some posters are not allowed to tell the truth

Its weird

(Down to the reporting I suppose)

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 30/04/2018 23:00

Therefore fck TGLWGH*

That's fucking goady putting a fucking asterisk in my fucks.

OlennasWimple · 30/04/2018 23:00

But IWill your child will never be a woman. They may decide to undergo various medical and / or surgical procedures to feminise their body, they may decide to apply for a GRC to give legal status as a female in most (but not all) circumstances. But that would make them a transwoman, not a woman. And what is wrong with that?

I sincerely hope that they are getting a lot of support from their family and friends, and live a long and fulfilling life. But you are really really doing them no favours to pretend that they are a woman, any more than you would agree that an anorexic were obese or support someone who found self-harm to be an effective coping strategy.

SophoclesTheFox · 30/04/2018 23:00

I was in an abusive relationship where I went in circles for years thinking if only I could find the right way to talk to him, to put my point of view across nicely, so he didn't get upset, if only I wasn't so selfish with my needs that made him feel so bad that he had no choice but to yell and scream and threaten suicide.

Some of the tactics on show here today are awfully familiar to me.

And to many other similarly uppity women who are no strangers to how conversations can be controlled by those who wish us to stay silent on our needs, because they're too much.

On a feminist board, though. That really is too much.

SupermatchGame · 30/04/2018 23:00

If this really does turn to shit, we can set up our own forum.

Yes Refuse, then you can truly rule the echo chamber of your dreams!

Ereshkigal · 30/04/2018 23:00

As that's what some were saying earlier.That kind of stuff is going to get deleted.

I said nothing of the sort, if that's aimed at me. Nor did anyone else mention "sex reassignment" surgery, because it's not a meaningful category in the U.K.. You don't require surgery to get a GRC or to "transition" whatever that's supposed to mean. Nor do I agree, if I had, that it's transphobic. You know nothing about this issue do you?

Pratchet · 30/04/2018 22:59

It's abusive to accuse someone of attacking a child when they plainly didn't.

Pratchet · 30/04/2018 22:58

Cote don't ever shut up.

You demonstrated to me (then a lurker) why some studies, showing TW to have traits ascribed female, actually do not and can not demonstrate the existence of gender identity, and in fact show the opposite.

Don't ever stop please Cote.

SupermatchGame · 30/04/2018 22:57

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AngryAttackKittens · 30/04/2018 22:56

The sentance was finished off by saying “your dd will never be a woman”

A direct attack on my daughter.

That is not an attack, that is a person telling you that they don't share your belief system. Like if I said that I don't believe that Jesus died on the cross to save us all from hell. People are allowed to not believe the things that you believe, and trying to force them to pretend that they do believe what you do is Orwellian.

PoulaFisch · 30/04/2018 22:56

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SupermatchGame · 30/04/2018 22:56

Supermatch might be interested to learn that several of their posts have been deleted. Do you stand by your approval of deletions?

Yes. 100%.

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 30/04/2018 22:55

why the hell shouldn’t you be allowed to speak verifiable, biological truth, just because it may hurt someone’s feelings?

Exactly - butch the fuck up fragile wimps. Some people have actual problems to deal with.

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