"It's ok to punch Nazis" becomes "It's ok to punch women"

Does Corbyn ever seek to distance himself and the Labour Party from these thugs?

Where was Corbyn?

Grimly amusing how authoritarian the Labour party as a whole are.

Political compass. Fittingly I ended up sat next to Jeremy Corbyn...

Economic Left/Right: -7.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95

I'm more moderate than AAK

I think the only reason I'm not in the -9 range on social libertarian issues is that I have concerns about porn.

(Bloody political compass created by men)

Economic Left/Right: -9.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.44

, I mean most people know AntiFa are nastiness incarnate regardless, but this is like watching a guy chuck a bag of kittens in a canal and then asking if you have a minute to talk about the minimum wage.

Lol

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Where is the party that cares about the vulnerable, uses evidence-based policy and stands for freedom of speech? I would dearly like to vote for them.

It isn't of course Ok even to punch a Nazi, given that as their definition of Nazi will include the vast majority of the UK population. I will be a Nazi- I left the Labour Party and I read the Times.

From the comments on the Rees Mogg article.
Think AntiFa may have just made a huge mistake. Not only have they barged into a perfectly civilised debate screaming abuse with their faces covered, they've done it to arguably the most civilised man in politics - Das Moggster. People are going to look at the unwashed thugs in hoodies and look at JRM and are going to know immediately who's side to take. You don't even need to speak English to know who's in the right and whose side to take Appalling judgment, I mean most people know AntiFa are nastiness incarnate regardless, but this is like watching a guy chuck a bag of kittens in a canal and then asking if you have a minute to talk about the minimum wage. Just forget it. Absolutely no one wants to be associated with this kind of shit.

Another left libertarian here who wholeheartedly disapproves of the authoritarian left.

A good time to post the Political Compass test? So that we can all see that right/left is a very different proposition to authoritarian/libertarian?

www.politicalcompass.org/

(I come out somewhere near Gandhi.)

But yes, opposes anti-Semitism, thinks punching women is wrong - these radical ideas may be a step too far for today's Labour Party.
I find it quite frightening that saying you would punch a woman for holding a different political view to you hasn't been roundly condemned by more actual politicians.

Is this Josh Connor person a member of the Labour Party? If so will he be suspended?

Or do you just get suspended for expressing the views he's referring to?

MargeH "Sitting from my position - slightly to the right of centre - this 'new' intolerance from the left doesn't come as any surprise."

Sitting from my position - quite a bit to the left of centre - this 'new' intolerance from the far left doesn't come as any surprise to me either sadly . There have always been some nasty pieces of work. Kinnock cleared them out of Labour in the 80s. Then Milliband let them all back in again when he let non-members vote for the leadership for three quid

I googled Thangam because although I'd seen the odd mention of her in the press I hadn't been paying close enough attention to form an overall opinion of where she sat. Used to be a cellist with the Liverpool Phil - now that's seriously cool! But yes, opposes anti-Semitism, thinks punching women is wrong - these radical ideas may be a step too far for today's Labour Party.

There seems to be a lot of cross over with Antifa ideology - Don’t trust the police or government - you have to defend yourself.

It also seems similar to American right wing ideology - you need guns incase you have to overthrow the government.

(Not sure what you do if your preferred party gets into power - join the secret police?)

Far left has circled round to far right, surely.

Thangham (née Singh) won a MASSIVE majority in Corbyn-land in woke Bristol, however she has upset the like Corbyn-bros by opposing anti-semitism, and no doubt they will be doubly upset that she doesn't agree with punching women. Expect deselection shortly.

The far-left is as sexist as they come.

Sitting from my position - slightly to the right of centre - this 'new' intolerance from the left doesn't come as any surprise.

@smithsinarazz

Is that not basically far left radicalisation?

:D

Person Recently I Ceased Knowing

@Wanderabout - it wasn't a direct quote.
A stupid Person I Used To Know (such a useful phrase) started posting lots of things on social media saying how much he'd like to beat up Nazis, etc. and how much he approved of no-platforming, etc.; I waded in saying if debates are determined by violence it's going to be the weakest who lose; people kept on mentioning "transphobia" as a good reason for no-platforming; I got riled and said I didn't agree with trans ideology; his mates ended up saying they were going to "beat the shit out of" me.
a) as DH says, don't quarrel with idiots online, it's unlikely to be fun.
but b) these were all reasonably well-educated, quite lefty-liberal people, the sort who'd have been proclaiming "Je suis Charlie!" a few years ago - who would've said they were against any sort of dogma, and any sort of censorship - and there they were saying they were all up for beating people up who disagreed with them!
It just upsets me so much that silly people on the Left have got enthusiastic about authoritarianism, and that the Right have been able to take the moral high ground with regard to women's rights and free speech.

Still a shame that they framed the reason for the meeting to 'discuss transgender laws' rather than to 'discuss removal of womens' rights' or something along those lines...

previously achingly-liberal people suddenly discovering a liking for beating and silencing those they disagreed with. If I challenged them, they'd say, "Don't you even want to punch transphobes? You bigoted piece of shit."

Is this seriously true? I have seen a lot of crazy things recently but This sounds a bit too ridiculous to be true?

That was what got me into all of this - previously achingly-liberal people suddenly discovering a liking for beating and silencing those they disagreed with. If I challenged them, they'd say, "Don't you even want to punch transphobes? You bigoted piece of shit." Silly, but well-meaning, people have (in my view) been taught to believe that physical violence is once again an appropriate response to heresy.

Has that boy who says he wasn't there heard of photography? He's studying visual arts or something isn't he? Maybe they haven't got to cameras yet.

He seems like a delightful young chap anyway.

I can't imagine any conversation in which any reasonably decent bloke I know could possibly use the phrase 'yeah, I'll punch x kind of women'. Maybe if x equalled 'murderous robot'?