Your peaktrans moment for today! Top this if you can.

Did you quote something else that got deleted?

I can't remember what I wrote now!

But I'm fairly sure my point was reiterated in subsequent posts.

I occasionally come across old posts of mine when I'm searching for something and think blimey that sounds alright, that does. With zero recollection of ever having written it...

How the fuck did datun get deleted???
My thought exactly!

Chopraka
It's absolutely believable that there can be side effects from taking hormones (after all biological women who go through early menopause take HRT).
However, why can't we (rightly!) explore the experiences which do affect trans women rather than try to deny biology or pretend that individuals who lack the required reproductive organs can have a menstrual cycle.

excessive synthetic female hormones.

I'm cringing a bit posting this but it starts off horribly and ends basically saying fuck off with your period appropriation.

Somewhere else it mentioned that low testosterone in men leaves them feeling pretty "cranky". So if any of this is true (there are skeptics) its possibly basic male biology reacting to excessive female hormones.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/body/does-the-man-period-really-exist/amp/

I have wondered if the cyclical thing is in any way related to what I believe is a mild cyclical thing men have anyway - my science is extremely hazy but I do remember something on the radio about male cycles being biannual and possibly less. Completely anecdotal But a colleague who was very experienced at working with quite severely affected children with autism who could become quite distressed and frustrated, was often convinced some appeared to have cyclical cycles of mood that she correlated to the moon cycles.

But it's still not female menstruation.

Just read that article. Yes, sounds plausible that there are side effects from the HRT these men are taking. Interesting that some report the side effects as being cyclical.

pointing out someone is biologically male when discussing claims of biology is not misgendering

Abso-fucking-lutley

Getting a bit concerned that ds1 period hasnt turned up

One assumes thats ok to discuss as we can't actually be arsed with biology anymore

How the fuck did datun get deleted???

I don't doubt that the hormones cause side effects such as bloating, migraines etc, possibly as some of the contraceptive pills might, but that's just the medicine not their biology or uterus. Entirely different and a uniquely trans women's experience

This. It is more than possible to value the experiences of trans people as their experiences without getting drawn into factually inaccuate claims that biological human males have periods.

I wouldn't choose to misgender someone in conversation to score points. Some choose to but it isn't violence.
But pointing out someone is biologically male when discussing claims of biology is not misgendering.

The mod responses seems to vary. One mods troll is another mods earnest transgender advocate just trying to reason with the uppity women who are being mean.

Ereshkigal cross post.

What happened to being concerned about drugs companies putting profit before health?

Is healthy cynicism unfashionable now?

The backlash when they finally understand they've been duped and what they've lost isn't going to be pretty

I suspect it’s some sort of spoof site.

Nope. There's loads of this stuff online.

"Yes, Transwomen can get Period Symptoms" - saying HRT gives TWs periods, just without the blood

"Ashley’s a 23-year-old trans girl who’s been on hormone replacement therapy (HRT) for over a year. She takes a cocktail of the antiandrogen spironolactone and estradiol, a form of estrogen.

About five months into her treatment, she began experiencing a predictable pattern of symptoms: First would come the soreness and swelling in her chest along with bouts of nausea; the next day, she’d endure painful abdominal cramping lasting minutes at a time, as well as constant nausea, hot flashes, dizziness, photosensitive migraines, and bloating. This cycle, she says, lasts for about six to seven days and repeats roughly every five weeks."

That sounds troubling. Not a period though.

I am concerned Ashley needs to see a doctor but is so desperate to be a woman, they're interpreting side effects of the drugs - or some other condition - as validation in stead of something to be looked at with some urgency!

I am deeply concerned about the young ones who have been told they can change sex and that hormone side effects are menstrual cramps.

They really do think this. I have spoken to some of them about it. I think a lot of people don't realise how anti/pseudoscience based much online discourse is.

Oh fgs

There are a lot of deletions on this thread - what's going on?

You can see page 1 of the thread via Google Cache. For those, people don't seem to have made personal insults, they're questioning the sanity of men who think they have periods / whether they're genuine or on a wind up.

Is that not allowed now? Can someone help me understand why not?

I am deeply concerned about the young ones who have been told they can change sex and that hormone side effects are menstrual cramps.
This is putting them at risk of death or destruction and it is an evil thing for transgender advocates to do.
There is an online cult recruitment that is spreading.
It starts with the lie that everyone is female in the uterus.
If you deviate in any way from rigid gender roles you are proclaimed transgender.
Then they offer advice on how to get hormones both legally and illegally.
They claim that the hormone therapy is perfectly safe and reversible.
They claim that hormones will grow them breasts to being their sex change to female.
Then that surgery will remove male genitalia to reveal female genitalia hidden beneath.

I suspect it’s some sort of spoof site.

Plenty of transactivists and allies think this.

tobee I remember my very first sex education lesson aged 11, the teacher explaining to a room full of shocked girls that periods weren't really as bad as we were all imagining, it was no worse than a man having to shave daily.

@transauthor When TRAs stop minimising and appropriating an female biological process that has had me fainting at work from pain and resulted in surgery to treat endometriosis, then I'll consider using preferred pronouns instead of accurate ones. I do not give respect to those who prove themselves undeserving of it. Words are not violence, Tanis Wolf's fist to Skepticat's face was violence. I will not participate in my own erasure.

Transwomen can't have periods, they don't have periods. The people tying themselves in knots about this are deluded.

Men shoving Tampax up their arse

Ew.

Not going to Google; actually, I once typed in #transgirl into Twitter and what I saw on there in the bum department was enough to know that putting tampons up there is small fry.

Ffs I don't understand why people go along with this bullshit, I really don't.

Deliberately using the wrong pronoun is an act of violence

No its not, its really not. Words matter, you can't just redefine the word 'violence' to include 'you not agreeing with me'. Rude? Maybe. Violent? No.

I am so sick of all this shit. Utterly utterly fucking sick of it.