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transgender medicine

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superbstarling · 24/04/2018 22:44

I'm new here, you all peaked me. I across this which I think some of you will find interesting!

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SusanBunch · 25/04/2018 17:51

the point is that this is a very overused tactic for shutting down debate.

Sure. Shall I see if Britain First have also produced a video about concerns over the trans movement and share it? I mean I doubt they are pro-trans....

HerFemaleness · 25/04/2018 17:46

This is a very conservative group who thinks it's possible to 'heal' people from gayness. The last time I pointed out that getting in to bed with conservative religious groups was a bad idea I got denounced as a bigot .... but if that sort of thing bothered me I wouldn't be gender critical. These sorts of groups aren't our allies. It harms us to be associated with them.

AncientLights · 25/04/2018 17:42

Dr. Van Meter lays out a very clear historical path in this clip. As one who likes to go back to the source to find information to help me think critically about a subject, I find this video helpful. I realise critical thinking isn't a thing that TRAs often engage in, if ever, but I shall persist and make up my own mind. It may very well be that I come across links with organisations that have views that I don't happen so share, but so what? They can voice them. Unlike GC people in the UK.

MsMcWoodle · 25/04/2018 17:42

SusanBunch No - the point is that this is a very overused tactic for shutting down debate.

SusanBunch · 25/04/2018 17:39

MsMcWoodle I think the point is rather that if you are a vegetarian and want to persuade others to your viewpoint, you don’t give them information sheets/videos written by Hitler...

crispbuttyfan · 25/04/2018 17:37

but heres a recent link discussing gender identity..

MsMcWoodle · 25/04/2018 17:35

Hitler was a vegetarian therefore all vegetarians are fascists.

crispbuttyfan · 25/04/2018 17:30

you do realise this is the kinda reason why mumsnet gets a reputation for transphobia.

Seriously your all cheering a link shared by youtube channel Mass Resisitance?
AN anti lgbt channel hat spreads idiotic propaganda about LGB as well as T.

You do know they oppose womens rights and abortion rights seeking traditional family values.

www.massresistance.org/

I mean if you want to keep spreading and cheering radical propaganda, or anything that attacks the trans community based in inherent transphobia, just don't be surprised that mumsnet has a reputation for transphobia...

DNAnotGRA · 25/04/2018 16:46

This is an excellent non hysterical overview of the very serious issues raised in this entire agenda

AncientLights · 24/04/2018 23:35

Thanks for sharing OP. It is interesting and informative. Clearly it comes from a political and religious stance that some (many?) of us here don't share, but he does say at the end that he is also surprised to be working alongside radical feminists and lesbians, if I remember correctly, in this. I liked the slide at around 40 mins into the talk, where he talks about compassion, science and not lobbing back the brickbats thrown at you.

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superbstarling · 24/04/2018 23:18

As I said i'm newly peaked, and have a lot to learn (including checking sources) Blush but it is very concerning that the TRA's are so influential.
It is very scary.

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Ereshkigal · 24/04/2018 23:00

Me neither. It is very enlightening. I understand why the RW anti LGBT source would put people off though.

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superbstarling · 24/04/2018 22:57

yes, I agree that the source is very right wing, but I don't think that it totaly negates the message. I good starting point for more research maybe?

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Ereshkigal · 24/04/2018 22:50

You have to look past the source which I think is very right wing, I'd forgotten that.

Ereshkigal · 24/04/2018 22:49

It's a good video, I second the recommendation. It explains how the trans medical community works to publish papers etc, as well as its chequered history.