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“Incel”

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Scribblegirl · 24/04/2018 18:29

Just come across this horrific phrase in the context of the Canadian attacks. I’ve always thought I was relatively aware but this completely passed me by.

Does anyone have any background resources they can share on the phrase/“movement”? Not sure I can face some of the murkier sites my first searches found.

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/04/2018 00:02

Fuck. I can't look at bedtime.

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 25/04/2018 00:02

It's really not a time to gloat and say 'I told you so'...

But we did.

ReappearingWoman · 25/04/2018 00:01

There's a thread on twitter by @ArshyMann about this, linking to the links posted. One comment stood out - Incels have an ideology & the goal is to terrorize women

I think it was Posie Parker at the WNTT meeting who said something similar.

I agree it's utterly chilling.

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 24/04/2018 23:51

They've started a new reddit over www.reddit.com/r/PeopleThatDontExist/

I think it was originally a sub for female incels but it's been largely overrun by displaced male incels who don't respect that a female incel could or would exist.

Xenophile · 24/04/2018 23:43

More We Hunted the Mammoth Incel posts.

Have a bucket handy.

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 24/04/2018 23:36

It's really terrible.

But the scary thing is that their parents probably think they are 'good boys'.

They don't go out drinking wildly, cause trouble, bring girls home or do drugs. The truth is very, very different.

All the more reason to always keep an eye on internet activity.

CrustyCob · 24/04/2018 23:32

Just read that reddit link wtf!
I've seen some shit in my time.
Lost for words at the moment.

Destinysdaughter · 24/04/2018 23:31

Just had a read of some of the stuff they're proposing, mass rapes, acid attacks etc. This stuff is absolutely horrifying.

www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2018/04/24/incels-hail-toronto-van-driver-who-killed-10-as-a-new-elliot-rodger-talk-of-future-acid-attacks-and-mass-rapes/

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 24/04/2018 23:01

It is nuts Cwenthryth. And the disgusting way that they talk about women is not reserved only for the women who refuse to have sex with them. It often includes abuse directed at the parents as well- either for not procuring a sex object for them, for not 'showing them' how sex was done, for not having sex with them or for bringing them into this world only for them to never have sex.

Why are they so sex obsessed? It is really sad and disgusting.

Ereshkigal · 24/04/2018 22:57

I read somewhere the other day about the “crime” of “reverse rape” - ie refusing to have sex with someone - and how serious it is and the impact on “victims” (the incels). You couldn’t make this shit up, it’s jaw droppingly entitled, completely batshit.

It's exactly the same type of thought process as the cotton ceiling.

TERFragetteCity · 24/04/2018 22:55

Saw earlier that the Toronto deaths could have been prevented apparently, by a government girlfriend scheme. Yes, a girl for every man, supplied by the government.

Cwenthryth · 24/04/2018 22:52

I read somewhere the other day about the “crime” of “reverse rape” - ie refusing to have sex with someone - and how serious it is and the impact on “victims” (the incels). You couldn’t make this shit up, it’s jaw droppingly entitled, completely batshit.

thebewilderness · 24/04/2018 21:05

These MRA incel men, and the TRAs who demand Lesbians date males who identify as lesbians to prove they are not bigots, are the men who taught me the 2nd rule of misogyny: Women saying no to men is a hate crime.

SelkieUnderLand · 24/04/2018 21:00

I can't cope with knowing about these men.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 24/04/2018 20:56

The sense of entitlement some males have is breath taking, and terrifying. In recent years both a close female friend in her 40's and a young female relative of mine in her 20's were drugged and raped, within a fortnight of each other.

Both were out on dates and had gone home with the men with the purpose of having consensual sex. Despite this both men decided to drug them and rape them whilst they were unconscious. WTF goes on in some mens heads that they hate women so much they must do such vile things?

It's utterly chilling.

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 24/04/2018 20:50

Doh! Troll, I should have refreshed... I see we've seen the same things....

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 24/04/2018 20:50

They're not entirely gone from reddit - via another route I ended up on the braincel sub reddit - just reading the side bar made it clear these are wronguns - reading the posts though - Jesus Christ..

TrollTheRespawnJeremy · 24/04/2018 20:13

There are still incel communities on reddit.

Also sub groups for different types of incels.

So smart incels are known as braincels.
Asian descent incels are known as currycels. (You couldnt make it up.)

It is disgusting. Some of these are mere boys- inciting misogynist hatred , incest and rape fantasies in order to assert how they feel they should be treated.

Everyone should read it. It's important that you know that this is out there.

Here's a link to 'inceltears' a reddit page that generally takes the mick or points out ridiculous incel posts. Obviously after Toronto it's taken a serious turn.

www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/

AngryAttackKittens · 24/04/2018 20:08

There was a particular "incel" who called himself GGG (Government Gets Girlfriends) who you could look up if you feel like a bit of rage would improve your day. He begged the following people to have sex with him - a police offer who was arresting him, a judge, his mother.

I say "begged", but it was more like "threatened to kill himself and/or others if they didn't". Apparently his parents were "abusing" him by not providing him with a girlfriend.

TaurielTest · 24/04/2018 19:26

The website We Hunted the Mammoth is good for critique of MRA bollocks.

PerspicaciaTick · 24/04/2018 19:22

The Sunday Times magazine had a long article about incels about a year ago. Absolutely revolting young men.

Wanderabout · 24/04/2018 19:20

I wouldn't underestimate the hatred these young men have for women, or their sense of rage and entitlement.

Any laws or policies that allow men to use female sleeping spaces, changing rooms, loos etc need to have safeguarding in place to protect women and girls from men like this abusing the system.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/04/2018 19:19

I win then. I told my friend yesterday that chances were the Toronto attacks were a repulsive misogynist. Yay me Angry

She looked Hmm when I said these things were pretty much always male violence. Entitled, male violence.

TERFragetteCity · 24/04/2018 19:17

Yes they often pop up on here.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 24/04/2018 19:15

I believe we have had one of them visiting of an evening over the weekend.

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