IW compares MN to the National Front and Nuremberg Rally

I thought it was going to be lots of stuff about prams, or family-related matters

Christ - if only, I've lived through Penis Beakers, Yoni Massage, umpteen parking/garden fence/washing discussions, and been enraged and unbelievably saddened by relationships.

I come to FWR for a rest and a sensible chat.. and a bit of feminist education and occasional activism of course.

India really needs to remove head from arse - because the nonsense being spouted just makes crystal clear that women, and what women actually talk about (not that different from men, plus biological stuff) is embarrasingly stereotyped.

When IW opens their mouth, the maleness comes out. They might want to work on that

There isn't an operation for male-brain as far as I'm aware.

Last week was my first ever visit to Mumsnet. Honestly, I thought it was going to be lots of stuff about prams, or family-related matters. A sort of online This Morning minus Phil and Holly. The reality is more like a Nuremberg Rally. It’s very scary.

Now that's just silly.

Hyperbole.

MN is guilty of it too though to be fair.

Comment below cartoon "But what if Hitler identifies as an Elderly Korean Lady?"

IW is a ninny.

Sandy- shouldn't the cartoon say "If you didn't say Hitler Start reading pink news.."
or
"if you said HItler Stop reading pink news."

You are allowed whatever personal boundaries you want. But you don’t get to claim the term feminist until that boundary is inclusive of, and you promote the freedom and liberation of ALL women, including transwomen. Cause transwomen are women.

Lol. Another man trying to tell natal women what they do and don't get to be. Bless.

Love that cartoon!

We know girls have been in Scouts for years, but they haven't been sleeping in the same tents

Yes exactly. And boys and girls go on school trips together, but they don't share the same shower rooms and sleeping areas. Whereas if a boy was claiming to be a girl then he would be.

India's recent Twitter timeline shows quite clearly the source of influence: much posting of Guiliana and Mimmymum.
Two very busy accounts.

There isnt a single correct fact in that entire rant.

We know girls have been in Scouts for years, but they haven't been sleeping in the same tents. Because of safeguarding and risk assessments.
Which is the opposite of the situation in the Girl Guides.

Do you think we can get Hugo Boss to do the uniforms? M&S is a bit passé.

India is just feeling alone. India snubbed and looked down on the dodgy looking non passing part time TW and cross dressers - India thought she could by bypass and didn’t need the whole trans community and wanted to distance herself and pass into general society - Big Brother must have been quite a traumatic shock to realise that wasn’t going to be easy. India has gone running back to curry favour and beg forgiveness and protection with the trans community eho she constantly dissed.

IW has some strange views for a woman

Yes indeed. Almost as if they'd have to shout "I AM A REAL WOMAN!!!!" at women, over and over, to force us to (pretend to) believe it.

Sandy's done a cartoon

twitter.com/SandyDrawsBadly/status/988837807178252290

IW has some strange views for a woman- there was the tweet just after the whole metoo thing empathising with men on what a difficult year they were having - and the rest of course. It’s almost as if India likes to point the finger at women.

@MadBadDaddy Everyone is someone's bad guy, but it must be especially hard if you're trans and the TRAs hate you.

I don't believe Willoughby has had an epiphany on self-ID. Willoughby's views on pre-op trans people were too strong and dismissive for that:

Unless you are transitioning, stay out of the ladies. Pulling on a frock as and when the mood takes doesn’t cut it. You don’t have a God-given right to go into female-only spaces.

That might make some dressers cross, but it’s the truth. As much for your own safety as that of transgender women. The word has been hijacked. The last few weeks have been ridiculous. Child-killer Ian Huntley reportedly saying he’s trans. A sex-offender on the run who dresses now and again described by cops as ‘transgender’. A white woman claiming to be black who says her struggle is identical to that of transgender women.

No, no, no.

I’m fed up of being expected to bite my lip out of solidarity, while arguments rage about why men who dress up should have all the rights of transgender women. They shouldn’t. Transgender has become a horrible, vague word that makes no distinction between someone with a medical condition requiring intervention, and a bloke who likes to frock-up once a week.

@NotTerfNorCis Many of us woke up one day realising we'd already been dragged into the Bad Guy end. What would anyone do? I didn't even know we had a pitch until then.

Waving a piece of paper or shouting “I’m a woman” is not going to buy any leniency from the police or courts.

Oh will it not.

IW’s attempts at persuasive writing always read like the time I wrote to the school newspaper, aged 14, asking for pizza to be served not just at lunch break but also at the 10.30 break.

A ramble of “but they are basically Hitler” for not doing what I WANT. But, but, but.
The Deputy Head once agreed with me but hasn’t done anything about it, SACK HER NOW.

I’ll admit to not being great at history, but the Nuremberg rallies didn’t happen in pjs on my sofa with a glass or two of wine did they? Because if not, I can confirm MN isn’t anything like them.

India really needs to lay down that #nodebate spade and stop digging.

Dear India,

It tends to be the ones dressed all in black, wearing face masks, the antics of whom mean that the police need to be called who can most accurately be compared to Nazis. Hope that helps.

Warm Fuzzies

Actual Woman