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IW compares MN to the National Front and Nuremberg Rally

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 24/04/2018 17:52

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/04/24/india-willoughby-transphobia-opinion-worried-for-my-life-mumsnet/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

This was an interesting read. It seems IW has taken to channeling Katie Hopkins. I'm not going to try and pull it apart as there is so so much wrong with it...

"I’m sure most people who use the site are decent folk. They want nothing to do with the rabid mouth-frothing going on by so-called “feminists.”"

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KatVonSweet · 02/05/2018 18:28

I saw so much hate directed towards IW on pink news, when she was in the BB house. Much more than any comment here that I've ever see. They call her that "truscum" name thingy. I guess she is doing this to try and win LGBT people round? Obviously she's ridiculous. No one thinks trans people shouldn't exist or that they should have protection from harm. The discussions are about how this balances with the needs of women and girls!

I was much amused when pink news mistakenly misgendered IW. It was a typo but considering their behaviour when anyone dares to do that! Made me laugh.

Teacuphiccup · 02/05/2018 14:01

I’m not sure, I only asked because I was sure she used to talk about having one when she was anti self id.

All of four weeks ago or whenever it was.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 02/05/2018 13:58

Are we legally permitted to ask if a person has a GRC?

OvaHere · 02/05/2018 13:55

So now India has let us know they are still legally male that should clear up any MN mod issues about us referring to India as male.

Freespeecher · 02/05/2018 13:48

Did India bawl this at a frightened Amanda Barrie?

doctorcuntybollocks · 02/05/2018 12:43

Perhaps Willoughby disbelieves everything true on principle.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 12:43

Kind of boggling honestly, that was an exceptionally ignorant comment even by India's standards.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/05/2018 12:42

I wonder if IW refuses to get a visa when travelling abroad to countries which require one? That's a more appropriate analogy, surely? (I'd be interested to know what TW who post on MN think).

doctorcuntybollocks · 02/05/2018 12:41

I don't think India Willoughby has much of a relationship with reality.

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 12:39

India does know that the Star of David is a symbol that Jewish people use themselves that long predates the Nazis and is not something they created, right?

Popchyk · 02/05/2018 12:36

IW says:

twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/991233287824736256

"I don’t have a Gender Recognition Certificate as a point of principle. Never applied. I refuse to walk around with a Star of David in my bag."

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 12:28

No idea.

Teacuphiccup · 02/05/2018 12:26

Doesn’t India have one?

AngryAttackKittens · 02/05/2018 12:24

So wait, what about people who want a GRC? Are they not allowed to apply for one because India doesn't think they should?

Popchyk · 02/05/2018 12:17

Doesn't IW realise how anti-semitic it is to appropriate the horrific experience of Jews in this way?

And use as a prop to the me me me show.

Ugh. A new low. #troughtrans

SirVixofVixHall · 02/05/2018 12:03

IW on twitter referred to a GRC as equivalent to a “yellow star”. Angry

IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 27/04/2018 06:58

Love the piece by Lisa Muggeridge. Thanks for linking

Trumpdump · 26/04/2018 20:06

I meant prams, not peaks! Blush

SirVixofVixHall · 26/04/2018 14:01

@curiouserand I agree. Lisa Muggeridge’s piece is spot on.

BarrackerBarmer · 26/04/2018 13:59

Can I link to this thread the next time someone tells me that old fashioned post op TS just want to live their lives in peace and not stomp over women like the TRAs?

Every time someone references the True Scotsman/no True Scotsman trope of good/bad trans activism I think of this person as a perfect example of why not to generalise.

Operative status is no guarantee of lack of misogyny.

curiouserand · 26/04/2018 13:43

And yes, it is hard to see it as coincidental that she posts stuff minimising the Holocaust just at the same point that Labour Holocaust deniers are springing out of the woodwork everywhere.

There are plenty of people nominally on the left who would like both Jews and women to shut up and know our place, as despite all the blatant attacks on both groups, we are (supposedly) the privileged ones.

curiouserand · 26/04/2018 13:39

Thanks, SpiderwebHammock

Yes, the idea that the real, actual Nazis would have the historical reputation they had if all they'd done was called Jews by the wrong pronoun or 'deadnamed them (as of course they did do - I have my family passports with the name 'Israel' (male) or 'Sarah' (female) added, to make it clear they were Jewish) is ridiculous.

The point is that the real, actual Nazis also murdered millions of people in the most brutal way.

And actually, ignoring that crucial second point is what make's IW's claims not just ridiculous but incredibly - and surely deliberately - offensive.

She is trying to pretend the Nazis are looked on as the epitome of evil for a bit of misnaming. She is overlooking the murder of millions.

Unless she can give the example of a single person murdered by MN users (and something tells me THAT would have hit the papers), she should a) apologise profusely to both MN users for the slur and to Jews for the minimisation of mass murder and then b) SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Pythagonal · 26/04/2018 13:24

In case this hasn't already been added, here's Lisa Muggeridge's 'Short Message to India Willoughby'.

idgeofreason.wordpress.com/2018/04/25/short-message-to-india-willoughby/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

UpstartCrow · 26/04/2018 12:54

Pram emoticon requested for IW webchat. Perleeaaaase.

Thanksforthatamazingpost · 26/04/2018 12:50

It would be interesting as India used to be against self-ID but has changed her mind.

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