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The Speculum for "people" with vaginas

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Jeanhatchet · 24/04/2018 07:03

The nonsense of this article ought to bring home to women who aren't aware yet that the erasure of the meaning of the very word women is happening even when describing procedures affecting only females.

Many of us know what it is like to be told to drop our legs to each side and "relax" in the doctor's couch for a cervical smear. You can hear the clang of the tray and that awful squeaking as it is unscrewed. It's is sharp at the edges and the last bit where they open it inside you ...can make you feel quite sick. It is uncomfortable and embarrassing and you are very very vulnerable and relying on a doctor not to hurt you in your most intimate of places. Your vagina.

The female body is the only one with a vagina.

The reason we have a smear test is so that we don't die of cervical cancer.

The female body is the only one with a cervix.

Cervical cancer only occurs in female bodies. It kills 2 females a week. It kills no males a week.

And yet.... and yet.... even the women who have redesigned the speculum to be more comfortable and better functioning for females .... have to say it has not been tested on "PEOPLE WITH VAGINAS".

Women. Women have vaginas. Women need smear tests. Women need to not die from cervical cancer at the rate of 2 a week.

Women need to be able to say that they want that investigation done by a female. They wasn't a female to insert that object into them. This is specifically important for victims of rape for example. If they can bear the procedure at all that is. They will have been raped by a penis. Females aren't "PEOPLE WITH A PENIS".

Women facing a smear test know their own bodies. Show them some respect when you speak about them.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/apr/23/how-to-redesign-the-vaginal-speculum?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

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HamishTheTalkingCactus · 24/04/2018 09:11

I'm not being precious about skirts, I rarely wear trousers - just as someone who has had very unpleasant experiences with smear tests, I admire people like the women in this article who put thought into how to make the procedure that bit pleasanter, rather than giving what I would have thought of as blindingly obvious advice that doesn't scratch the surface.

LassWiADelicateAir · 24/04/2018 09:08

I was also a bit unimpressed by the Jo's trust tips in that article- like wearing a skirt  for those who struggle with smear tests for whatever reason. as heaven forfend we should look at design issues to make the procecdure less daunting

Oh fgs some of you really need to get over yourselves with this "oh I hate skirts and dresses" stuff. It is obvious what she means. You aren't naked from the waist down if you wear a skirt.

Ekphrasis · 24/04/2018 09:02

Thanks, I thought so.

Teacuphiccup · 24/04/2018 08:30

I don’t think I understand you disturbingly wearing a skirt IS a good tip if you are getting a smear test, I know I hate taking my trousers and knickers off but it’s not so if I can keep a skirt on.

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 24/04/2018 08:22

I thought you could always request a chaperone.

I'm pretty sure that I've had a female doctor ask as well as a male one.

HamishTheTalkingCactus · 24/04/2018 08:17

I was also a bit unimpressed by the Jo's trust tips in that article- like wearing a skirt Hmm for those who struggle with smear tests for whatever reason. as heaven forfend we should look at design issues to make the procecdure less daunting.

MoistCantaloupe · 24/04/2018 08:15

Yes, you can always request a chaperone whatever the sex of the nurse

Ekphrasis · 24/04/2018 08:08

I notice she comments her recent examination was done by a male nurse with a chaperone.

Can you request a chaperone if the nurse is female?

LittleLebowski · 24/04/2018 07:26

Rose George's Twitter (the person who wrote the article) says she used 'people with vaginas' as that's what the US study said. She herself calls people with vaginas women, so also agrees the wording is nonsense. She wrote an article about toilets a while back which also tried a careful line on the gender neutral issue. I don't think it's easy at the Guardian!

MaybeDoctor · 24/04/2018 07:17

I have clicked on the link - they use ‘women’ lots of times in the article?

I’m no fan of smear tests, but my understanding is that until the specum came along there was no way to visually examine a woman’s cervix or do anything involving the uterus. So it has its place in the list of life-saving devices...

mimibunz · 24/04/2018 07:12

It’s a strange phrase to use when they’ve used the word ‘women’ throughout the rest of the article, but I’m not sure I’m reading anything in to it.

Jeanhatchet · 24/04/2018 07:04

Sorry for appalling typos. I'm dead mad about this.

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