When/How did the transgender debate start?

And this is Jean O'Leary in 1973 speaking at a rally about how drag queens/early trans activists had attempted to get women banned from reading political statements:

Sorry that this is older history but it's relevant to the fact that allowing any male to identify as female has led to push back on women's rights, and has always been antifeminist politically.

gendertrender.wordpress.com/tag/radfem2012/ This was the first venue refusal that affected me

Sheila Jeffreys did a brilliant talk on the whole history of this at the 2016 Radfem conference, it's so worth sitting down with a cup of tea and watching.

Julia does the introductions and then Sheila is the first speaker.

I first became aware of it via Twitter when Suzanne Moore tweeted words to the effect of she was more bothered about women than men lopping their bits off, and WW3 broke out. Prior to that, I can only recall Twitter feminists arguing about whether Rihanna’s video for Bitch Better Have my Money was feminist or misogynist...

Feminist criticism of transsexual ideology goes back (at least) to Janice Raymond and her book 'The Transsexual Empire' (she did her thesis under Mary Daly, so hell of a track-record as regards rad fems!).

Early 80s then -- and one thing I remember from the time was strong arguments that if gender was abolished, then many of the social pressures to transition would disappear/be reduced. Back then, as I recall, centred around gender dysphoria, and those who transed out of the lesbian and gay community into the straight community not seen as a positive thing. Whilst L&G community accepting of trans folk in their spaces, along the lines of accepting gender non-conformity. Although some M2T identified as lesbians, it was certainly seen as not just socially acceptable but expected that lesbians in general would not be interested in an M2T partner. I also recall several discussions with various lesbians who had thought about transitioning, but as I recall the strongest pressures were to seek to gain social acceptance and to pass as a straight couple. We saw that for what it was at the time, as I recall. I only ever met one female who wanted to transition to become a gay man.

Male brain/female brain in 'wrong' body ideas soundly dismissed at the time.

Kimberley Nixon made their first complaint against Vancouver Rape Relief in 1995 and you can read a bit about that here:
www.feministcurrent.com/2012/05/14/rape-relief-v-nixon-transphobia-and-the-value-of-women-only-space-an-interview-with-lee-lakeman/

And trans activists have been (successfully) getting venues to shut down radical feminist events in the UK which discuss gender since at least 2013:
feministuk.wordpress.com/2013/06/19/radfem-2013-we-didnt-kill-any-men/

And in the US too:
johnstompers.com/2013/07/sam-bergs-statement-on-radfem-rise-up-2013/

From Sam Berg at the second link:
Most transpersons go about their lives without harassing feminists, but the ones that appear to live for harassing us are all pro-pornstitution and that synergistic alliance is noteworthy.

Way before they called us SWERFs and TERFs trans activism and pro sex industry activism were two faces of the same thing.

SuperLoud that's amazing.

Greymisty
It was not well received on the LGBT blogs at the time so they altered the strategy. That was what alarmed a lot of Transexuals and Lesbians. The authoritarianism and homophobia of trangenderism was right out on front street.

A friend told me these debates have been going on in academia focussing on sex / gender politics for years so perhaps it's been a slow burn till more recent law changes / proposals.

www.lrb.co.uk/v21/n14/linda-colley/stubble-and-breath The Whole Woman was 1999

I remember this being significant
www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jan/31/gender.weekend7

I've just been looking at an old sociology book to try and get an understanding of the history of where we are currently.

Most of the references refer to writers/theories dated late 80's early 90's though debate probably goes back to Freud

RW Connell
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raewyn_Connell

And
Nancy Chodorow
httpss://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Chodorow

Thebewilderness...the trans umbrella extends over ALL the LBGT?? I did not know this...that makes like no sense. Apologies for my ignorance!

Thanks. Also someone who was completely oblivious until a couple of months ago.

I remember raising this in person in a national meeting of an LGBT+ group more than two years ago, and even then I was pretty terrified of what would happen when I outed myself as gender-crit, as Glosswitch, Sarah Ditum et al were already long being vilified on social media for standing up for women and girls. (Hi Glossy! Hi Sarah! I am so grateful to you both.)

I think it really only kicked off as a national debate, albeit only in a limited way at first, in early 2013 after Suzanne Moore got monstered for an article in which she referred to the (theoretical) shape of a "Brazilian transsexual". She subsequently wrote this about it.

The debate among Feminists started in 2005 when the trans umbrella was announced to cover all the LGBT and the women said no thank you very much.

Gender Recognition Act was in 2004 and Equality Act was 2010 then the Tories M Miller did this in the summer of 2017.
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/how-do-you-solve-a-problem-like-men-in-women-s-changing-rooms-maria-v3hhxmk3p

I can't answer your questions, FunderAnna, butI have also been wondering when this popped up in the nation's toaster. I can't believe only 2 months ago I was oblivious to all this. It's all been kept so quiet, not only in the UK but in Portugal, who just passed it into law, and also Ireland and Malta. I hope the UK is the country to break this silence.