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MsMcWoodle · 21/04/2018 21:39

Have a look. What country are we in:
www.facebook.com/julie.bindel/videos/pcb.10160135970780316/10160135907955316/?type=3&theater

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thebewilderness · 21/04/2018 23:17

Srsly! You simply cannot have an effing hissy fit over misgendering and then turn around and assign cis to women without so much as a by your leave, and when they say no you think it is an effing negotiation.
People who refuse to take no for an answer are not safe to be around.

Wanderabout · 21/04/2018 23:16

Suffice it to say that the 'cis' would need a wash afterwards

Grin
Elletorro · 21/04/2018 23:16

I suppose most security firms aren’t equipped to deal with an organised onslaught rather than drunken punters??

RosenbergW · 21/04/2018 23:16

Julie Bindel has mahoosive ovaries! :D

I see exactly what the speakers meant. These men in their masks are intimidating, but as time in the video ticks by, they do seem like inept, clueless posh boys. And the giggling!

I hope every one of them gets ID'd and outed to their mums, their Unis, and their jobs.

What a shower of wankers.

ReluctantCamper · 21/04/2018 23:15

Over 5.000 people have watched that video already. I think sisters uncut maybe celebrating prematurely. They've certainly raised a comment from Jess Phillips MP on twitter, and I don't expect she's the only one who's thought errr hang on a minute.

I suspect (and fervently hope) that this will turn out to be a massive own goal.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 21/04/2018 23:13

A body cam might only tell the police who the perp is when they've recovered your body.

I was thinking more just to record and publish the shit we put up with on a daily basis and when we try to meet and discuss issues. But er, thanks! Grin

Xenophile · 21/04/2018 23:12

There was proper security at the venue.

I think the problem is that as soon as the Police or security started to sort things out, the TRAs squealed that they were being assaulted. They weren't.

This is terrorism. Anyone who supports this, supports terrorism against women.

Elletorro · 21/04/2018 23:12

I imagine that would be a question of interacting with the venue to use their staff and pay for it. Although isn’t that already included in venue hire if you are at a pub/night club?

Maybe nightclubs would be better venues on that logic?

merrymouse · 21/04/2018 23:10

But that's a very long winded way of putting it when there's a perfectly good modifier already available in cis.

‘Cis’ isn’t useful because it implies that everyone agrees on what ‘gender’ and ‘woman’ and ‘man’ mean, and that everyone has a gender identity.

More than that it implies that I can identify as non-binary and somehow escape all the medical and societal consequences of being a woman, that the difference between me and a man is a gender identity that I have agreed to. I can’t and I don’t agree.

The only thing ‘cis’ really expresses is the ideology of the person using the word.

LizzieSiddal · 21/04/2018 23:10

Would crowd funding work to pay for proper security at these meetings?

I’d love to see how these little shits would react when faced with properly trained security staff.

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 21/04/2018 23:08

Here's a link to Sisters Uncut Bristol's Facebook page, where they're celebrating their actions. <a class="break-all" href="//‪www.facebook.com/sistersuncutbristol" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">‪www.facebook.com/sistersuncutbristol

MissTeri · 21/04/2018 23:08

Do you know the more and more I go about my life and see what other women are subjected to I think I will start wearing a bodycam 24/7 A body cam might only tell the police who the perp is when they've recovered your body. Self defense lessons and arm yourself with anything that you're legally allowed to.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 21/04/2018 23:06

Do you know the more and more I go about my life and see what other women are subjected to I think I will start wearing a bodycam 24/7.

MsMcWoodle · 21/04/2018 23:04

Yes. We need police to do their jobs. Need some contact re this before meetings.

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Elletorro · 21/04/2018 23:01

Future meetings will need to liaise with the police in advance and ensure that organisers are allowed access and egress

Fire escape routes should be kept clear.

Bottle neck areas should be identified in advance and be kept clear.

I see a health and safety risk here.

LangCleg · 21/04/2018 23:01

It's just made me buy a ticket for the Oxford Women's Place meeting.

Good for you!

Let's have dozens more meetings and let the fools show themselves up many times more.

thebewilderness · 21/04/2018 23:00

Misters Uncut took credit on twitter for these terrorist actions at Bristol.

Trumpdump · 21/04/2018 23:00

Antifa, not 'anti Facebook'!

Trumpdump · 21/04/2018 22:59

Anyone know which group they were from? Anti Facebook? Sisters Uncut?

I'm wondering if the Daily Mail would be interested in this? They like a fight, especially if there's a video!

Wanderabout · 21/04/2018 22:58

Please stop calling these adult males misguided youth. They openly advocate killing women who refuse to submit.

This is true, isn't it? It's happening in plain sight, for anyone to see. Organisations claiming to be against domestic violence are openly saying it's OK to hit women. If that woman points out the difference between transwomen (even with penises) and women.

So you could be a man who hates women and says he is a woman. You need have no surgery if you don't want to. You then get to advocate violence against women who question it. And are lauded for doing so by many.

Because transwomen are women. And any man who says he is a woman is s woman. And if you don't agree you are on the wrong side of history.

Why wouldn't an MRA or generally unpleasant woman-hating man do this?

Elletorro · 21/04/2018 22:58

Exactly right Reluctantcamper not only is the female gender the worst the biology isn’t a walk in the park either.

I refuse my gender and I’d love to escape my biology. But I cannot so I’m a feminist making the best of a bad deal.

thebewilderness · 21/04/2018 22:57

Women are discussing the effect of laws on women's rights.
Reframing it to center transgender in women's rights discussions is inappropriate and I respectfully suggest that you knock it off.

MsMcWoodle · 21/04/2018 22:57

Right yes - back to the thread. What can we do about this sort of behavior and how can we make sure that future meetings aren't stopped?

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ReluctantCamper · 21/04/2018 22:56

Yes, I think we can all agree on that HermionesRightHook