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MsMcWoodle · 21/04/2018 21:39

Have a look. What country are we in:
www.facebook.com/julie.bindel/videos/pcb.10160135970780316/10160135907955316/?type=3&theater

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EasterRobin · 22/04/2018 07:56

Women are having to discuss their legal rights in secret locations to avoid this kind of intimidation to themselves and the threats to the venue. The people attending next week's meeting won't even find out where it is until just before the event. How is this seen as progress?

PlowerOfScotland · 22/04/2018 07:23

Is this a new low for the women's meeting protestors or normal MO?

This is the first time the venue hasn't pulled out due to threats and another one found at short notice. There was hand slapping, pushing, blockading, verbal abuse. There's just been a TRA convicted of punching a woman in her 60s at a meeting, judge didn't give victim compo though, as victim declined to use she to describe a male in lipstick.

Trumpdump · 22/04/2018 06:20

Can you imagine if this wasn't in the U.K. and was happening in a less-developed country, like India? The Guardian etc would be all over it (and quite rightly too!)

"Working class women physically blocked from discussing feminism by angry masked men" Sad

LaSqrrl · 22/04/2018 06:18

Women are in the unenviable position of claiming that we want to debate our rights. We really don't. What we want to draw attention to is the erosion of women's rights that have taken place as a result of the application of of the Gender Recognition Act and the Equality Act.

Well said.
Also, the last real time there were (male) blockades to women holding political meetings, was in the days of First Wave Feminism (women's suffrage). So frankly, I think that shows 'what side of history™' the ones in black masks are on.

thebewilderness · 22/04/2018 05:06

Their hashtag is #nodebate because they do not think rights should be a matter of debate.
Women are in the unenviable position of claiming that we want to debate our rights. We really don't. What we want to draw attention to is the erosion of women's rights that have taken place as a result of the application of of the Gender Recognition Act and the Equality Act.

ChattyLion · 22/04/2018 05:02

Oh my fucking god. I never in my life thought I would see masked men physically stopping women from attending a public meeting to discuss proposed changes to UK law.

^ What she said.
It’s horrifying. Why is peaceful demonstration, leafleting, making placards not enough for these a-holes? Why do they need to add in threatening behaviour specifically to silence others? Why can’t they take part in a debate about a legal change if they are so convinced that they have right on their side??.

thebewilderness · 22/04/2018 03:44

For a while they were taking seats and then making a big show of interrupting a speaker with a planned shouty walk out but it didn't get them much traction because there are so few of them.

EasterRobin · 22/04/2018 03:30

Is this a new low for the women's meeting protestors or normal MO? I'd imagined them protesting outside the venue with shouty rude words and banners. I'd never thought of them protesting inside the venue.

LightofaSilveryMoon · 22/04/2018 02:17

I am sadly disappointed (i.e. fucking totally disgusted) by the Men's Rights Activists.

SpringNowPlease2018 · 22/04/2018 02:05

@MadBadDaddy they seem to be gaining power so it is helping them.

MadBadDaddy · 22/04/2018 01:38

I had to force myself to watch that. How can they think that this is what will help anyone? The entitlement is sickening.

JB did a good job of standing up to "The Militia Wing Of The Nutcase Orange Fringe Militia Job"

JustAnotherSpartacus · 22/04/2018 01:29

Another clip, where a protester goes ape shit over being called she ""I'm not she you F*king C*t my pronouns are they"

twitter.com/MagdalenBerns/status/987703549768491008

StaplesCorner · 22/04/2018 01:14

Well done Spending!

LapdanceShoeshine · 22/04/2018 00:57

There is some very unfortunate name-calling now in the comments under Julie’s video - from both sides, not so many of sisters uncut but TGLWGH out the window Hmm

UpstartCrow · 22/04/2018 00:56

Sisters Uncut claim to be against cuts to domestic violence services, so you'd think they'd be more clued up on abuser behaviour.
It looks like they fund raise for their 'activism'; so they are potentially diverting donations away from DV shelters.

MrsTerryPratchett · 22/04/2018 00:35

I'm very disappointed that I couldn't be the first to post the rats' anus video.

Wrong side of history, my arse. When you are wearing a mask, grabbing at phoned, blocking the way of middle aged women who want to talk about women's rights... have a look at yourself in the mirror. Sorry. You can't. You're wearing a mask.

Spending2muchtimeonMN · 22/04/2018 00:33

Can I just ask why stuff like this is only posted on the Feminism board - surely this needs more traffic. Worrying doesn't cover it.

You're right. I'll post it on AIBU.

Pratchet · 22/04/2018 00:28

Daily Mail mentions it briefly in a story today (tonight)

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 22/04/2018 00:23

People who need to see this:

Julie Burchill
Jess Philips
Robert Webb
Thingy Linehan
Hadley Freeman
James Kirkup from The Spectator
Paddick
Helen Lewis from The New Statesman
Julia Hartley-Brewer
David Davis
Andrew Gilligan from The Times
Any other vaguely GC MPs

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 22/04/2018 00:15

Goodness me this is utterly, utterly shocking.

I had almost talked myself into going to a meeting but I’m pregnant and just can’t risk it. Fucking hell.

Such brave women, such childish men. But they are men - adults. They aren’t children, although they act like them. These are men, threatening and physically intimidating women in an enclosed space. ADULTS.

LizzieSiddal · 21/04/2018 23:57

Mumsnut yes Tweeting this to Brian Paddick is a good idea.

merrymouse · 21/04/2018 23:57

most of the physical violence enacted against us was by cis men.

The police? Bouncers?

merrymouse · 21/04/2018 23:55

connotations with concepts of non-intersectional “Universal Sisterhood”

Or in other words ‘all lives matter’ as a response to ‘black lives matter’...

thebewilderness · 21/04/2018 23:54

What does it mean that violence is enacted against them? Is that the latest euphemism for someone told them no?