Everyone should see this IMPORTANT

There has to be some kind of reasonable person standard applied when one group of people is claiming to be scared of the other.

Yes. Imagine someone believes the Jews are conspiring against society and causing harm. And therefore believes they are entitled to "retaliate" by harming Jews. At what point do we say "carry on if that's what you believe" rather than strongly opposing/calling the police?

But seeing as I'm here now anyway, has anyone suggested some sort of "code-of-conduct" for non-females to adhere to when navigating around? It may clarify an uneasy relationship without feeling like a compromise.

Develop a thick skin. That actually applies to anyone posting on FWR but more so for anyone male. It's impossible to discuss feminism and sex based oppression without being incredibly blunt at times. Anyone NAMALTing all over a thread is seen as a derail.

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Sorry too buzy reading what other women have to say to write you a code of conduct. Maybe take some responsibility as an adult for figuring out for yourself what is moral behavior?

Isn't that one of those 'good problems'?

@MadBadDaddy Threads have a 1000 post limit on here.

I think if I ever did work up the chutzpah enough to start a thread on a feminist website, this would possibly be it. May also suggest a word-limit though.

If there's one golden rule I'd suggest to anyone not female commenting on a female majority site it would be to never, ever claim to be More Objective on account of Male. That tends to register as a "there is a wasp trying to fly up my nose" level of irritating.

"when one group of people is claiming to be scared of the other"

The fact that this site even hosts that particular debate will never cease to rightfully upset some. For it to take place at all, it has to tolerate non-natal-females gaining entry to a female space ie Mumsnet/Feminism. Even if only 1/1000 women feel that this is intolerable, then it is intolerable. Her rights are stepped on in favour of Trans rights. Trans. is not itself a Feminist problem.

But seeing as I'm here now anyway, has anyone suggested some sort of "code-of-conduct" for non-females to adhere to when navigating around? It may clarify an uneasy relationship without feeling like a compromise.

I'm very sure I recognise one of those people on the stairs. A trans female who trains in a martial art and competes as a female.

I'm genuinely afraid of spiders. That doesn't mean that every spider that I see is actually full of venom and just waiting to kill me with it (I don't live in Australia), even though it may feel that way to me at the time.

There has to be some kind of reasonable person standard applied when one group of people is claiming to be scared of the other. There is no evidence that gender critical women are a danger to anything other than a trans person's feelings.

we also have to accept that there are trans individuals who are afraid and that they genuinely feel under threat.

The trans identified males of Sisters Uncut explained this morning that that is why they never go to these terrorist actions themselves and always send their minions instead. Being exposed to police and women saying no to them endangers their mental health.
I confess to being a bit shocked that they do not even carry their own water, but I guess that is what they think women are for.

That's where the MRAs got it from: they choose the red pill and then the matrix of female supremacy is revealed to them.

Typer in fairness he may mean the Matrix red pill rather than the MRA version, but I agree it's a bit apt.

I forgot about cultural appropriation

Life does seem rather complicated these days

Interesting from the point of view of MRA/TRA cross-over that one of these thugs says he has taken 'the red pill'.

The video is spreading. Just saw Ian Dunt retweet it on Twitter. He has nearly 90k followers. :)

I'm sure Kumbaya is a cultural appropriation of someone according to them. It would be literal genocide to sing it.

Perhaps we should sing Kumbaya really loudly if there’s any trouble. That’s definitely none threatening.

Nooo! I have smelt that liquid ass stuff - You don't want to be messing with it. :o

Plus they will only use it as an excuse for wearing masks in future.

Ekphrasis, WPUK say they welcome babes in arms at their meetings but I would be concerned about you carrying a newborn past these thugs if they decide to show up at Newcastle.

Intimidating disabled women and new mothers - I hope they are fucking proud.

Start a thread closer to the time and we will tweet it to WPUK - I'm sure they could organise a way to group together anyone who is attending alone and feeling scared.

Or if there are enough responses on threads about the meetings people could sort it out here on MN?

For anyone who can't access it on facebook it has been uploaded on to you tube now www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=sBll45tSKzc

Oh and on a more serious note next time call the fire department. Totally not legal to intentionally block a fire escape, idiots.

And maybe a loud CD of old school feminist folk singing about wombs.

Trans individuals are afraid because of propaganda from the likes of Giuliana on Twitter. There's not a lot we can do about that if we're being silenced.

Can someone bring a few cans of Liquid ASS Mist Fart Prank Smell Spray with them to the next event? I think I'd just keep squirting the hallway until they dispersed.

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