Yogyakarta principles

I've just had a quick read and I have no legal background maybe somebody could help me with these questions because I am trying to figure out what it's actually saying and how this could be interpreted by law.

PRINCIPLE 30 The Right to State Protection
Take appropriate and effective measures to eradicate all forms of violence, discrimination and other harm, including any advocacy of hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility, or violence on grounds of sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression or sex characteristics, whether by public or private actors

With people saying misgendering is literal violence does this make such things a crime? What's incitement to discrimination? Saying that women refuges shouldn't admit males for instance, could that be classed as incitement to discrimination?

Ensure sensitivity training of judicial and law enforcement officers and other public officials on issues relating to sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression and sex characteristics;

Waves at mermaids

PRINCIPLE 31 The Right to Legal Recognition p9
"Everyone has the right to change gendered information in such documents while gendered information is included in them."
iii. Ensure that no eligibility criteria, such as medical or psychological interventions, a psycho-medical diagnosis, minimum or maximum age, economic status, health, marital or parental status, or any other third party opinion, shall be a prerequisite to change one’s name, legal sex or gender;

Is this saying that self-ID is a right and you don't need a dysphoria diagnosis or medical intervention?

iv. Ensure that a person’s criminal record, immigration status or other status is not used to prevent a change of name, legal sex or gender.

Also, is this allowing prisoners to self-ID?

PRINCIPLE 32 The Right to Bodily and Mental Integrity 10
"No one shall be subjected to invasive or irreversible medical procedures that modify sex characteristics without their free, prior and informed consent, unless necessary to avoid serious, urgent and irreparable harm to the concerned person."

Is this saying that you don't need children's informed consent to trans them?

Who gave this particular group of experts the authority to make a worldwide declaration?

My actual role ended up being the one making sure that there was trans inclusivity, that there was within the work an understanding of the complexity of trans identities and trans lives and that we moved beyond a binary gender notion. The other thing that was particularly important for me, partly because of our own family history – my partner had immense difficulties getting the right to donor insemination –because she lived with me.

Our friend Stephen Whittle helped to draft them:
www.boell.de/en/2016/07/20/yogyakarta-principles-provide-guidance-and-are-constant-reference-point

I got an invitation and could not believe it because nobody ever asked us anything. As trans activists, one of the reasons that we set up the separate trans organisation in the UK “Press for Change”, which I was part of, was because our voice didn't exist otherwise. I was involved in the development of Transgender Europe (TGEU) and in 2007 I became president of WPATH, the first non medical person and first trans person to have that position. I suspect I got invited because Robert Wintermute was one of the experts and he was very much engaged with the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ).

I heard sheila in the meeting live feed and want to read up on this too.

And then we need a set of principles for immutable sex. Watertight.
That is my goal.

Legal protections for my sex.
Distinction between sex and genderblahfeelz

you can hear Sheila Jeffries here as the meeting was recorded
www.facebook.com/TheJamJarBristol/videos/793672257494647/

Well done to Jenn.

It's a really weird situation we are in where men (still legally male) are inserting themselves into the sex category of female and many of the older transsexuals (legally women for decades) are coming back 'out' as males in response.

A time is going to come where common sense is against the law.

I was thinking of starting a thread on this after listening to Sheila. I've had a brief look at the website but not read fully as yet.

I'm interested to hear from posters who have more knowledge.

Thank you for posting this, I meant to get around to looking this up.

I will be watching this thread with interest. They were mentioned a lot in the recent Scottish GRA consultation. I had never heard of them but I got the impression that it was an internationally agreed set of principles that every country was involved in, kind of like the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (in fact I got the impression it was pretty much an official addendum to that).

What Sheila Jeffries said, has made me doubt that and I am hoping some knowledgeable MNer will come on with some more background (there's always a knowledgeable MNer )