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All the Mumsnet hate on Twitter. Have we friendzoned India's penetration?

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RefuseToDenounceBiology · 20/04/2018 16:59

It seems that India is a little obsessed and is even now actively encouraging brands to stop advertising with Mumsnet.
A picture of a 17 year old with a semi in a skirt will stop a baby formula brand wanting to be associated apparently Confused twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/987348210858577921?s=20

All the Mumsnet hate on Twitter. Have we friendzoned India's penetration?
All the Mumsnet hate on Twitter. Have we friendzoned India's penetration?
All the Mumsnet hate on Twitter. Have we friendzoned India's penetration?
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Voice0fReason · 20/04/2018 23:29

Nobody identifies as transgender because it’s easy or fun
Men who want to gain access to women's only spaces do.

And even if the likes of Lila Perry genuinely believe that they are a girl, it does not mean that they should have been given access to the girls changing room. Trans rights should not come at the expense of women's rights.

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 20/04/2018 23:28

Ray Blanchard
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twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/987394174856155137
@BlanchardPhD

A study of the rapid rise of extremist trans ideology could start by finding out the demographics of the majority of (non-trans) "allies": Gay men, lesbian women, straight men, or straight women?

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 20/04/2018 23:22

Hell yes

diddlemethis · 20/04/2018 23:18

All the attention MN receive from the TRAs, MRAs etc, demonstrates clearly to me how much power we really have. They are clearly scared of us. Scared enough to lie, to threaten and to try and erase us.

Not going to happen. We are the creators of people.

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 20/04/2018 23:10

I cant actually spell it.
Misogany, a wood often used to beat women around the head with.

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 20/04/2018 23:08

Should we stop shortening the concept of misogny to one word? It's a lot of stuff in one word. Genuine question. There are three different things in this definition below, maybe highlight the specific one that applies. Sorry if I am lecturing. Repetition of a word can lose the power.

Misogony
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 20/04/2018 22:37

It is misogyny

Wouldn't disagree with that

R0wantrees · 20/04/2018 22:34

& a link here to the thread with some of the MN responses to Justine & MNHQ's position following article in The Sunday Times & the TalkRadio interview (above)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3222471-AIBU-to-be-extremely-proud-of-Justine-Roberts-Mumsnet-right-now?pg=1

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mumsnet-founder-justine-roberts-transgender-activists-try-to-curb-free-speech-on-site-z3sr3nf6q?shareToken=b2eb62822dd26aecc0f88653978ed23a

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 20/04/2018 22:29

One assumes they feel mumsnet is an easy target

I think it is more than that. It is misogyny.

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Rufustheconstantreindeer · 20/04/2018 22:12

One assumes they feel mumsnet is an easy target, which it probably is to be fair

No going after pistonheads, or reddit or britain first or that aarse one

Nope nope nope...mumsnet

(Apologies to anyone also on the forums mentioned above who are quite happy not being attacked on twitter)

R0wantrees · 20/04/2018 22:11

What Justine said:
"I think the problem with this is that the trans lobby have confused an issue about people quite rightfully sticking up for the idea of hard won women's rights around....(interrupted but earlier JR referenced women's refuge and rape counselling as examples)

The upshot of the change to the legislation that's been asked for around self-identity, is that you are putting women, including transgender women quite frankly in vulnerable positions potentially.
We need to be able to discuss if we are changing legislation, and for very good reasons because I am totally in favour of recognition, equality and fair treatment of all individuals and letting them live how they live.
But we need to be able to discuss these competing rights and it needs to not just be shut down....and I'm afraid and to be honest India you've got to see the other point of view, you can't just plough on with the [position] 'our issue is the only important one''

spontaneousgiventime · 20/04/2018 22:06

IW wants to close down MN to close down women talking about our concerns. You only have to remember BB with IW and Amanda Barrie to know what kind of person IW is.

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 20/04/2018 22:04

Thanks Rowan for the vid

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RefuseToDenounceBiology · 20/04/2018 22:01

Actually, in term of consciousness raising it's been an incredible few weeks.

It really has.

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Trousersdontmakemeaman · 20/04/2018 21:59

Actually, in term of consciousness raising it's been an incredible few weeks.

R0wantrees · 20/04/2018 21:55

Some may have missed Julia Hartley Brewer's interview with Justine Roberts & India Willoughby this week

Context is important!

Beyond11cisRetinol · 20/04/2018 21:52

Please can someone set the siren off if that does actually happen, I'd actually pay to watch Grin

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 20/04/2018 21:36

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R0wantrees · 20/04/2018 21:29

This thread has led me to discover that India Willoughby, who I have had literally no form of interaction with ever, has blocked me on twitter. Go figure!

Interesting difference:
This thread remains visible to all ( and is no doubt being scrutinised by some). Anyone can join (except those banned by the site).

Meanwhile in Twitter... mass 'terf blocks', block by association, etc...

RefuseToDenounceBiology · 20/04/2018 21:09

In fact there will even come a day when India Willoughby can no longer be arsed.

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RefuseToDenounceBiology · 20/04/2018 21:07

I can't be arsed

And here in I think the battle will be won. When people can no longer be arsed to let the bullshit continue. It is tiring and pointless and eventually we'll collectively default back to the real world again.

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RosenbergW · 20/04/2018 21:03

I can't take a post referring to someone who gets a semi wearing a skirt as 'her' seriously.

I tried to get through it but a couple of paragraphs in I realised I can't be arsed this evening with being polite to someone who insults freely then tried to bullshit that they didn't.

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