All the Mumsnet hate on Twitter. Have we friendzoned India's penetration?

I'm looking at a person with a freely swinging, semi erect penis demanding to share a changing room with females and calling them bigots for refusing
I saw this on the news and was horrified

I think the difference here is that some of us are looking at this person and seeing him as a child, one of our sons, vulnerable etc.

Others of us are looking at him and seeing a sex offender who has committed his crimes against a large number of young women.

@Ratrolypoly thank you for articulating this better than I did. I have sons too and I have teenage boys in my family who I love very much. If an adult used photos of their genitals to make a point I’d be devastated and furious

@disturbinglyorangescrambledegg yes I read the news, I work in an industry that allows me to see how fear can be be stoked by disproportionate news coverage that often doesn’t reflect real life risk. No I haven’t been flashed. I have I have been sexually harrassed in a way that had long term emotional consequences for me and i’ve been followed, heckled and made to feel unsafe in public spaces my whole life. None of the men who behaved in those ways towards me were trans. Toxic, aggressive traditional masculinity feels like a more of a threat to me and although I can see there are instances of trans people who have behaved in aggressive and threatening ways I don’t believe that this is a constant meaningful threat to most women to the point that explains every 3rd discussion in the feminism boards being dedicated to it. Have you or anyone you know been personally attacked or harrassed by someone who is trans? Has anyone on this thread?

I don't think it matters where that Gif of Lila Perry was taken, or what Lila's "famous" for; if it were an 18 year old with female anatomy, would any of us think it was okay to be assessing her erect nipples or damp crotch to evidence... what exactly? I don't know. But I'm pretty sure in 99.999% of scenarios imaginable we would not think that was okay. We would think it was abhorrent, as a pp remarks. Male anatomy is not fair game just because it's male. That's not my feminism, not least as the mother of a son.

MeSoGynae the science of women

Would the terfblocker not fall foul of GDPR?

Understanding who has been most actively involved in exploiting the blockers and how they have had so much influence will be more significant....

MeSoGiny women who drink to drown out the patriarchy

Every day I get prouder of our fabulous Justine Roberts. And more grateful to India Willoughby for bringing the nation to #peaktrans.

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Thanks Kittens, will do.

Would the terfblocker not fall foul of GDPR?

It’s a screening algorithm that could prejudically affect people ... isn’t that illegal soon?

We are no longer allowed to use screening software on CVs for example. Is this similar or no?

Just log out, Deb, and you'll be able to see everything.

IW blocked me on Twitter the other day. Is there a way to see what they have tweeted if you are blocked or is that me forever in the dark?

who was so overwhelmed by by their sexuality they hypothetically allowed it to override their judgement, the law and the real life consequences and hypothetically infiltrated a female space for brief sexual gratification. I would want that hypothetical individual punished for their actions. While I can see this hypothetical situation could occur I don’t consider it a meaningful risk in most of our lives and I think our concern should be proportionate when their are so many overwhelmingly real dangers for women in public spaces.

Fuck me dude - do you not read the news? Have you never been flashed? I was first flashed when I was about 11, it's happened plenty of times since. I've seen a bloke sat on a bench in the park wanking through his pocket, a guy at one of my jobs had apparently planted a camera in the ladies and got done for it when it was discovered, I've been groped, and harrassed and that's just me. Men have hidden in septic tanks, in roof spaces, planted cameras, drilled holes, invented fake hands, and camera shoes - it's not bloody hypothetical that a man would let his desire for sexual gratification override his common sense, it happens all the time

Nobody took a picture of Lila Perry at school you silly billy India. He did an interview with a TV crew flanked by handmaidens. It is this footage from this interview that has been shared on Twitter, this is not some kind of creepshot or something, it's a still from a news video off the TV.

@supergrammama Terry-ism

Ok thanks Errol, that makes sense, kinda ( not ) but then this is IW, so

So after (are we at a week yet?) IW has had time to scour the MN site/twitter, she has come up with a pic of LP, who happily accepted all the media coverage they could get, and a 'hey give me a jingle' post. Did somebody say IW is a journalist?

Well, it implies MNHQ is in cahoots with a feminist whose work focuses on male violence against women and children the devil incarnate.

I swear I read the whole damn thread, and still cannot figure out what everything you need to know about MN was in that post.

Does this mean I'm not a true MNer that I couldn't spot it?

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