All the Mumsnet hate on Twitter. Have we friendzoned India's penetration?

The photo was taken when Lila was about to be interviewed by reporters. Lila was not papped.

The indecent exposure is what he did in the locker room.

But that isn't where the photo was taken.

It IS grooming isn't it Trousers?

Having to justify not wanting children exposed to bare semi erect penises under skirts. Am fucking sick if this.

Keep your fucking dick out of girls' changing rooms and keep it your pants. Fucking ridiculous that just saying this is considered risky these days.

I just want to cry for girls, it's so much worse for them now.

"Look, as unacceptable as one might find it, I don't think a clothed penis is ever indecent exposure."

That wasn't the point I was making, my point is that the deliberate exposure of MALE genitals is the crime of indecent exposure, and it's a sexual crime against FEMALES.

And men understand that quite well - an erect penis is not equivalent to any part of the female body - and even quite poorly socialized men who may in certain circumstances rape women take steps NOT to expose their erect penis. So when we are presented with a male who does NOT follow these basic social norms that are followed in normal circumstances even by nasty rapists, but instead walk around with no underwear and a visibly erect penis, then we are entitled to draw inferences about that person.

Especially in view of some of the other images of him as seen in this thread.

Rat
This is utter bollocks. Genitals are not for public display. And you are fucking damn right I'm going to comment when they are on display around children.

And I have zero interest on whether you choose to get your tits out. But if you choose to put them on public display, you would be deficient in braincells if you thought that they would not attract attention when that's exactly why you did it in the first place.

when some weird bloke whistles or says "psst have you got the time?" you either cheerfully tell them the time or ignore them with no idea they have their cock out and want you to see it.

Grooming is very effective isn't it.

"I don't think a clothed penis is ever indecent exposure"

The indecent exposure is what he did in the locker room.

also worth considering how the use of this picture was used to crate the narrative of 'terfs show children's genitalia' and the consequences and implications of this.

A narrative from a set of political lobbyists that encourages girls to bind, boys to take hormones to grow breasts, and which has a poster child with their own TV show where said person's sex drive and lack of penis material available for surgically altering into a neovagina is openly discussed on camera.

Lobbyists that push for boys in girls changing rooms and guide camps, and which gives accolades to a woman who took her son abroad to have 'sex change' surgery that would have been illegal here when he had just turned 16.

They have the nerve to say that us noticing a penis when it's shoved in front of us is child abuse but they do all of this and more.

But Rat, don't you think Lila's erect penis is absolutely the central issue here and completely apposite and relevant?

The girls were saying they didn't want to expose themselves to him, and him to them, and what does he do but turn up for a TV interview with a hard-on and no underwear.

Your mother's point about putting a bra on was that she didn't want men looking at you in a sexualised way - and they would have done. A slight hint of nipple or breast and they will be sexualising a young child. This is NOT an equal relationship, anywhere on the planet. Females across the globe cover themselves up as a defence against male sexual aggression, while men face no such issue whatsoever from women.

I mean the scenario where a female has a publicly visible wet crotch
is really only because she's menstruating

...is it just me then?

Look, as unacceptable as one might find it, I don't think a clothed penis is ever indecent exposure.

On another subject, I don't know that I've every been flashed either, not such that I remember.

Hey, hey, I'm not defending anything else about Lila Perry except that I don't think it's okay to publicly critique their genitals. Let's stick on point here.

And actually Assigned, I distinctly remember my mum begging me to put a bra on because I looked "explicit", but I did not care. And I'm sure a lot of mothers tutted at me in shopping centres. What would I do if, in our gender-un-stereotyped future my son wore a skirt? I might well tell him to put some pants on. He might well tell me to do one, if he's anything like I was!

My brazen sexuality didn't make me a sex offender though, did it? I mean I cringe looking back at how inappropriate I was, but such is youth. What does that Gif of Lila prove? That they're a brazen youth perhaps, but not that they're a sex offender, and nothing such that it warrants our scrutiny.

"I don't think it matters where that Gif of Lila Perry was taken, or what Lila's "famous" for; if it were an 18 year old with female anatomy, would any of us think it was okay to be assessing her erect nipples or damp crotch to evidence..."

Are you actually serious? I mean really?

To the extent to which an 18-year-old female might have 'erect nipples' or a wet crotch, she is likely to be the recipient of unwanted male attention in consequence.

I mean the scenario where a female has a publicly visible wet crotch
is really only because she's menstruating, and for you to equate that with an erect penis is quite offensive. And protruding nipples are an OBJECT of male attention, they are not EVER a perpetrator of sexual assault in the way that an 18-year-old boy exposing his erect penis would be.

The sexually aggressive act of indecent exposure is about the deliberate exposure of a penis. It has bugger all to do with erect nipples or wet crotches!

I have never been flashed. I'm trying not to take it personally.

I am very unobservant so it's possible that people have been frantically flashing me for years and I just haven't noticed.

@theyoniwayisnorthwards

This is the only way light can be shone on this issue. We are constantly told to shut up and accept female means male and female in the human species and that there will be NO ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES of that ever. So yes it's distasteful, the reality of it is distasteful. If you don't think feminists should discuss it you can stay out of the discussion. Or write to your MP and tell them its not something people should talk about too much, or you can recommend a law where only people who have direct experience of something can talk about something. That's pretty much where we are now. Not working for many.

Unfortunately due to the fast moving nature of social media, the context of posting this picture becomes lost... also worth considering how the use of this picture was used to crate the narrative of 'terfs show children's genitalia' and the consequences and implications of this.

Flipping heck. Adopting Lila Perry as your poster girl is not a smart move by TRAs. I feel another peak coming on.

He was offered separate facilities which he declined then he was offered a curtained off area in the girls changing room which he also declined

That's just disingeneous crap Rat. Lila Perry had his dick out, no underwear, under a short skirt, in a school.

Children should not have to be exposed to that. And telling people who object is to it that they are perverts for noticing it is serious fucking gaslighting.

I have sons too. If they wanted to wear a skirt I would still TELL THEM TO PUT FUCKING PANTS ON.

And for the record, I wouldn't let my daughters go commando either

AsAProfessionalPenis nails it.

Don't want your semi all over the internet? Don't demand access to the girl's changing rooms.