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Is feminism inherently sexist? Anybody for human rights anymore?

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cforte0 · 19/04/2018 22:21

Feminism appears to only ever advocate for women's rights alone, even when we mention gender equality it is immediately presumed that it's an issue where women are in need of support and empowerment.
Is that not inherently sexist, solely focusing on the rights of only a subset of our species, why are we not advocating for human rights anymore?
There are at least 6 separate organisations where I work that advocate for gender equality and/or diversity and/or women's rights, and every one of them is focused on women's rights. Where I work females out perform and out number men, I don't understand how I'm suppose to be at an advantage because I'm a man, and there's not a single group I can go to for support as none of those groups are willing to offer me any of their services.
I'm all for human rights and consider myself an individualist where people should be awarded things on merit, but even when trying to pose questions in what should be a critical thinking environment I get branded a sexist and a misogynist. Without anyone acknowledging and critiquing my ideas, I'm personally attacked and disregarded, is that because I'm a man?

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ReluctantCamper · 19/04/2018 22:57

it looks like a tiny asshole.

very apt in this situation.

HopScotchy · 19/04/2018 22:57

God this gets so boring. Just read about what feminism is. From books, not the letters page of Metro.

Freespeecher · 19/04/2018 22:55

Gotcha.

ReluctantCamper · 19/04/2018 22:54
Biscuit
Trousersdontmakemeaman · 19/04/2018 22:54

It's a jammy dodger

Freespeecher · 19/04/2018 22:53

You'll have to excuse me as I'm new here but... biscuited?

2rebecca · 19/04/2018 22:52

It's like the men moaning that Guides shouldn't be single sex because scouts admits girls. That was a Scouts decision, nothing to do with feminism. I support feminism but also environmental stuff and other things but am in different groups for different things. I've only started getting more interested in feminism since men started to take away our spaces and language. I think men's' activist groups to campaign for men to be less aggressive, stop using porn which objectifies and degrades people (mainly women) and make feminine men feel that men can be feminine without pretending to be women sounds a great idea. Off you go.

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 19/04/2018 22:49

Biscuited.

How can anyone come back from that I wonder.

ReluctantCamper · 19/04/2018 22:48

I'm personally attacked and disregarded, is that because I'm a man?

well, in this particular situation I think it's because you sound like a bit of a tit cforte0. You've also been mocked and (worst of all) biscuited.

We've got the odd man knocking about the place. I've seen some of them post sensible things and be cordially ignored, or even acknowledged.

So yes, I think we can sure that it's not because you're a man. It's because you sound like a total tit.

itsbetterthanabox · 19/04/2018 22:48

Ok so when are you setting up a group to help disadvantaged men and boys? I will happily support you.

Ellenripleysalienbaby · 19/04/2018 22:46

Have you ever looked at the 'Counting Dead Women' website?

2 men a week aren't murdered by their female current or ex partner. Do you think that women are supposed to roll over and shut the fuck up about the violence perpetrated against them by men?

TripleRainbow · 19/04/2018 22:46

why are we not advocating for human rights anymore?

I'm really interested to know when you believe the homogeneous advocation for human rights started and ended.

BarrackerBarmer · 19/04/2018 22:46

Feeling a bit sorry for the rhinos now. Bastard donkeys.

Yeah. You spend your life with a massive fucking horn between your eyes and then some other bastard gets all the space in the sanctuary just because their great-great-great grandad once gave Jesus a lift or some shit.

Grin Grin Grin

Ohdearyme2018 · 19/04/2018 22:46

You don’t understand what feminism is. Please read feminist history books, then perhaps consider having an opinion.

CelticSelkie · 19/04/2018 22:45

'When all you have ever known is privilege, equality feels like oppression'.

This. Wine So true.

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 19/04/2018 22:44

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CelticSelkie · 19/04/2018 22:44

ps, I'll bite.

Your idea seems to be that we should ignore the fact that it is women who need these groups. Women face so many obstacles to get to the same place men get to without obstacles. I can list these many obstacles if you like. You want to ignore the fact that society doesn't protect women from being disadvantaged and you want the help that is available to be given equally to men.

Ellenripleysalienbaby · 19/04/2018 22:43

'When all you have ever known is privilege, equality feels like oppression'.

Hope that helps.

Greymisty · 19/04/2018 22:43

See Birds here above is feeling for the rhinos and I'm here cheering for donkeys and platypus and the humble goldfish and rabbits.

In essence I quite like animals.

You could say i support animal rights.

Goldfish however are not endangered yet rhinos are... who requires my support? Hmm

Biscuit
PleaseDontGoadTheToad · 19/04/2018 22:42

However I'm still unclear as to what rights men don't have.

CelticSelkie · 19/04/2018 22:41

Such a willfully blind view point.

Of course we need feminism. But you can call it masculinism if you like. It's all about equality so by all means think of it as masculinism. But masculinism would need to create a world where women aren't paying the price for maintaining the population.

PleaseDontGoadTheToad · 19/04/2018 22:40

What kind of support group were you after OP?

Support groups and services for women exist purely because women campaigned for them and opened them.

There's nothing stopping you or any other man from doing the same. IMO men who want specific services for men should be looking at those for women and using them as motivation. Not knocking them because you feel men should have the same.

ReluctantCamper · 19/04/2018 22:40

Feeling a bit sorry for the rhinos now. Bastard donkeys.

Yeah. You spend your life with a massive fucking horn between your eyes and then some other bastard gets all the space in the sanctuary just because their great-great-great grandad once gave Jesus a lift or some shit.

futuresupergran · 19/04/2018 22:38

TRA, MRA same thing. Just whiny men in different flavours

futuresupergran · 19/04/2018 22:37

looks like we got an over-privileged whiny manchild wondering why the underdogs aren't helping him become even more privileged.

fancy a biscuit, man? Biscuit

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