Bristol meeting tonight.

How can these masked men seriously not understand what they are doing? How can they pretend to themselves that this is 'peaceful protest' rather than the clear harassment and intimidation to silence women that is actually is?

Same as all narcissistic abusers. It is a common tactic.

domesticviolence.org/violence-wheel/

I am reminded of a cartoon showing two german soldiers in the second world war and one turns to the other and says, 'Hans, are we the bad guys?'
Hint to the Jam Jar protestors, if you wearing masks and physically preventing women from meeting and talking, you are probably the bad guys.

And someone just posted on the MN twitter:

I think YOU have a male problem. What is it like living with so much hatred towards 50% of the population?

This is exactly a men's rights movement. We're being gaslighted and shamed, called bigots, for wanting to preserves female only spaces.

As though all that male violence just never happens...

I have watched those videos and I am aghast. I genuinely feel like I have been in a coma for 20 years and have woken in an unrecognisable world. A world where women are opposed, intimidated and silenced for wanting to meet and discuss how a social shift and proposed legislation will impact on women/ girls. How can it be happening that masked people (an awful lot of them men) are preventing women from meeting politically on issues affecting them and our politicians are staying silent?

How can these masked men seriously not understand what they are doing? How can they pretend to themselves that this is 'peaceful protest' rather than the clear harassment and intimidation to silence women that is actually is? How can that man be so unaware of what he is doing that he says ' please don't take this personally'. You are preventing women from meeting and discussing issues affecting them - how can that not be personal? How can you be so unaware of what you are doing? How can you be so unaware that you are using your male body and strength and size to physically prevent women having political discussions about their own lives? Why do you feel you have the right to dictate to women what issues it is 'acceptable' for them to discuss about their own lives? How can you not see that this is deeply misogynistic?

And that woman, outside with the banner saying, ' I want to reassure you that it is safe for you to leave', How can she pretend to herself that she is a nice, 'caring;' person for saying this? How can she not see that she is part of spreading fear, harassment and intimidation to silence women?
It is a collective mass of lack of self insight!

I genuinely don't know what the solution is to balancing the rights of protections of women/ girls and transpeople. But I do know it is a real issue, with legitimate arguments on both sides and the debate needs to be had honestly and respectfully.

Sorry if it's not clear, the YouTube video is Miranda, she said they were trapped inside after the meeting.

I just saw this by Miranda Yardley about what happened after the meeting; https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7LbLAnKGrXQ

Also, Sisters Uncut Bristol were the people who organised the demonstration outside, a supposedly feminist group. Their self congratulatory post on Facebook is full of lies basically, I think I believe Magdalen Berns' video over this;

Sisters Uncut Bristol
"Massive well done and thanks to everyone who came out last night.

We are pleased that we managed to delay the event, and interrupt it several times.

All this, despite being physically assaulted by TERFs (including staff from the jam jar who have claimed to be all about “peaceful discussion”), cops and security a constant stream of verbally abusive hate speech from those attending the event.

At an event that claimed to be all about safe space for women, it’s worth noting that most of the physical violence enacted against us was by cis men.

We are strong together and we will not let TERFs have a platform in Bristol. To be neutral is to side with the oppressors, and such people are not welcome in our community.

Trans women are women

💜🔥💚"

Posie

Goddess spare us from unflattering camera angles ... it didn't though - you looked fab.

During Heather's speech - it looked like you all felt on edge - like the TAs could burst in any time. It's a crazy situation.

I deliberately never swear on twitter.

The phone number thing also kicks in if you swear a lot

Actually it came after tweeting Kiri about the gender rainbow. Must have got their backs right up lol.

I'll have a think about it. Tossers.

You can remove your number after TERF

I have just been given access to twitter having been banned for about a month. Haven't decided whether I'm going to use it or delete the account.

I gave them the number in an old PAYG phone of DD's that still has a SIM card in it

I've been locked out of twitter, lol.

Mainly for retweeting stuff such as these videos.

Am i giving them a phone number to unlock it? No chance.

@thebewilderness re abusive family member, yes that exactly.

It would seem Esther has abandoned claims of throwing down stairs now and is focusing on attendee named Simon being a known sexual abuser and "the terfs were told and didn't care"

Poise, not hugely feminist I know but you look amazing in the corner of that video. So elegant and composed and commanding.

Slight crush going on.

What actually happened to disperse the posh blockers?
The footage showed an official looking lady come under the ribbon and go in, I presume she had words and then they all just went away.

Was there any actual "throwing of people down the stairs" ??

Every single person that I could make out on those stairs was clearly of the Eton Wanker XY variety.
I had noticed that Heather was shaken in the streamed footage. Having seen that now, I'm impressed that she wasn't much more so

I agree that surely the police should have made the protesters stand back as surely blocking the door of a legal meeting is harassment, intimidation and a possible incitement to violence. Not sure of the appropriate legal terms here.

It makes me so bloody angry. These posh young men are telling women that we don't have the right to political organisation unless it meets with their approval. Piss off you posh twats.

Damn, been watching and listening to the footage this evening ( the Jam Jar Bristol, www.facebook.com/TheJamJarBristol/videos/vb.170323713162841/793672257494647 ), and during the meanwhilst, the discussion on here seems to have moved on.

I only meant to express how refreshing it is to watch the Bristol meeting and to listen to the speakers. They are inspirational.

Been watching the footage this evening ( www.facebook.com/TheJamJarBristol/videos/vb.170323713162841/793672257494647 ).

Paused it just now (temporarily - going back to the Q&A after this), at the end of Posie Parker's rousing and clear-sighted speech. Excellent.

Marvellous talk, all of you speakers. Thank you. Really good to listen to you. And like the Cardiff WPUK meeting, each speaker explains different aspects of this debate.

Any accusations of transphobia can go to fuck. This is measured discussion, and rational and in good humour. The focus is on concern for the rights of women and children.

Right, getting back to listening to the rest of it!