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MN no longer safe for gender critical women

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TheXXFactor · 18/04/2018 22:20

I am reluctantly deleting my MN account, in light of the data breach: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3225517-The-MNHQ-Moderation-team

It's a fantastic site, Justine has shown herself to be a staunch defender of women and I'm enormously grateful to MNetters for all your support and humour over the years. So this isn't a flounce, more a reluctant slink out of the door of a party while the gin is still flowing but...

..this data breach could cost me my job and my personal safety. I have no way of knowing whether Emma has stolen my data and MN don't seem interested in finding out. They are not even reporting the breach to the ICO.

I hate doing this. I hate that trans extremists will see this as a victory. But I cannot trust MN to keep my data safe, or even to take proper steps to remedy a breach. I sincerely hope that they will review their approach, so I can come back. Until they do, the anonymity of usernames means nothing and every gender critical woman on here is at risk.

So long and thanks for all the Pom bears Bear Sad

OP posts:
2rebecca · 19/04/2018 07:11

I'm staying. My friends and colleagues would be surprised if I didn't think that for nearly all women being a woman meant being genotypically and phenotypically female.

SusanBunch · 19/04/2018 06:55

She really does have a lot to answer for. One thing (not sure if it’s reassuring) is that I do think some of this is pure stupidity on Emma’s part. If she had actual names and emails, I think her blog post would have looked very different.

But the point is nobody knows which is why I think MN should take legal action and get an injunction against her and an order to search all devices that she has. They can surely afford it.

MargeH · 19/04/2018 06:47

Perhaps this is a good opportunity for posters to review the personal data they unwittingly share on line, not just on Mumsnet, but across the board. Register with false details if possible. Give the minimum data requested. I have walked away from some websites because they have required what I considered unnecessary personal information.

I have FB and Twitter accounts so I can read posts if necessary, but they're not in my real name and I use a different anonymous email address. I would never post personal photos of me or my family online.

Companies can never offer a 100% guarantee that your data will be safe, so it seems prudent to be careful about what you store online/in the cloud. We need to take responsibility for keeping ourselves safe too.

SecretsRSecrets · 19/04/2018 03:03

Full disclosure:

Yes, I am a Cerf, and apologies to Light, I sometimes drink fruit teaBrew

SecretsRSecrets · 19/04/2018 02:58

Staying too. AngryAttackKitten, LangCleg and thebewilderness taught me to be a feisty bitch (look, I'm even cussing)

So nope, not backing down here either, screw 'em!

OP, I hope you'll stay or come back under another name.

Together we are strong

Haidees · 19/04/2018 00:46

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MipMipMip · 19/04/2018 00:33

Sorry, bad phrasing there! I'm in the middle of fibre fog so can only remember snatches and putting words together is quite a challenge!

There was a site, possibly for the Jennifer Jones (?) AWS challenge where people were getting weird emails after signing up. I'll have a look see if I can find any more.

FloraFox · 19/04/2018 00:24

@TheXXFactor Please don't. After Jeffrey I changed all my profile details to make them anonymous. You can do the same and keep posting.

MN is a very important site for women's consciousness raising, not just for awareness of any particular class structure. Please Keep On Keeping On!!!

womanhuman · 19/04/2018 00:23

This is from the original days breach thread. Couldn’t agree more.

Threatening Justine didn't work, threatening the advertisers didn't work, so EH has taken this drastic (and evidently pre-meditated) step to frighten women off this forum.

DarthArts · 19/04/2018 00:20

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CrustyCob · 19/04/2018 00:12

Well, this is exciting.
I'm stopping here for the foreseeable.
Feck 'em. Smile
I've brought a few cans of real ale along, thought it was more appropriate than gin, given the circs and all that.

Oh ! And there are two beardy types outside of my front door, offering to sing.
One has a double bass.
AIBU if I don't let them in?

HopScotchy · 19/04/2018 00:06

People have different risks to take. I will not ask a woman to keep taking risks if she decides it's too much. I'll just take note and get louder to compensate. It's why lots of us are very loud.

SimplySteve · 19/04/2018 00:05

I'd also second using a VPN to protect you. Opera has one built-in for free; commercial solutions are available for around £20 a year. I'd be more than happy to point anyone wanting more details to trustworthy companies I'm aware of via PM. (I've been a co-author, technical reviewer, writer, internet analyst, senior development head in the industry).

LightofaSilveryMoon · 19/04/2018 00:05

Fruit tea is still a con, though. Rubbish stuff.

Janie143 · 19/04/2018 00:05

Yes it is what they want

LightofaSilveryMoon · 19/04/2018 00:04

I believe that the intention of this criminal stunt is to scare women off MN.

Because there is now growing opposition, in mainstream press and blogging, to the proposed stupid and irresponsible changes to the GRA and EA.

Domestic terrorism could be a good description of such behaviour.

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 19/04/2018 00:04

that would be an understanding for them.

^^ should be

that would be an undertaking for them

CircleSquareCircleSquare · 19/04/2018 00:02

Last week I asked MN to remove my posts and my account but changed my mind last minute. They were very understanding although wanted to clarify if I wanted to delete all my usernames (I change every now and then for protection) because that would be an understanding for them.

I changed my mind because of Justine’s stance in The Sunday Times.

However the reason I originally asked to be deleted was because I was threatened (specifically my business) away from MN for being “a TERF” and particularly for promoting the petition. I suspected someone had put 2 + 2 together and worked out from my posting history that it was me. Now, obviously I am not so sure.

This is exactly what TRAs want isn’t it?
The thing is, they know many here are at a stage in life where we have dependants and fully established careers. I don’t want to give in but I also want to pay my bills.

SimplySteve · 19/04/2018 00:02

It would be a real shame to see you go @TheXXFactor . This is undoubtedly part of the damage the offender intended to cause.

HopScotchy · 19/04/2018 00:01

Proud cerf. I don't make the rules. Coffee is coffee not tea.

Janie143 · 18/04/2018 23:57

You are all CERFS ! Stop literal violence against coffee drinking people Bigots

HopScotchy · 18/04/2018 23:56

We made tea of all kinds. It was not appreciated.

thebewilderness · 18/04/2018 23:55

ts really annoying....if I'd have left last month as I intended i would be sat here all smug(And yes...i know nobody cares but i like to pretend grin)

I care!

AngryAttackKittens · 18/04/2018 23:51

TEA infiltrated site sounds lovely, actually. I'm imagining someone sidling up to randoms and offering them a cuppa.

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