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Labour Party confirm that all women shortlists are open to anyone who IDs as a woman

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CapnHaddock · 17/04/2018 13:52

They did not consult as promised, they did not discuss. They just decided.

Jennifer James has instructed her solicitors.

Fuck the Labour Party. That is the final nail in the coffin for me. Anyone got any ideas about how best to spoil the ballot next month?

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BabyItsAWildWorld · 17/04/2018 17:47

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Noqonterfy · 17/04/2018 17:26

I can't believe I put so much effort in for labour in the past. Never again. They can fuck off.

SmurfOrTerff · 17/04/2018 17:21

Still waiting for canvassers round here. My MP (another one who was on an AWS) is apparently going round with the woman candidate.

I hope they will knock on my door.

I think I will say

I am a cunt and have been erased
I will vote for anyone who does not buy into this

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SirVixofVixHall · 17/04/2018 17:18

Whatnow123 I was thinking that too.

Weezol · 17/04/2018 17:14

Thing is, apart from the count, who actually sees spoilt ballots? What happens to them?
Unless they are seen by candidates after elections it seems a totally pointless action, especially in this particular year.

Floisme · 17/04/2018 17:07

I think I'm going to draw an extra box and vote for Justine.

OlennasWimple · 17/04/2018 17:07

Bourdic and Upstart - I'm going to write "Vote XX" in a new box at the bottom of the page and then put another X next to it to mark my selection. If I could get into Twittering, I might try to promote this as #VoteXXX

UpstartCrow · 17/04/2018 17:03

That does it. All I have to do now is decide how to spoil my ballot.

merrymouse · 17/04/2018 17:00

Given that Jeremy Corbyn actually said that after work drinks were sexist because women would want to get home to their children, it's not that surprising that Labour have a special policy for people with lady brains.

Bourdic · 17/04/2018 16:58

Still need an idea as to what to write/draw on ballot paper?

whatnow123 · 17/04/2018 16:57

Wouldn't it be an idea to get some willing men, to self id as women and attempt to get on these shortlists, to highlight the craziness of it all.

TheCrowFromBelow · 17/04/2018 16:55

Gah.
I will not be voting Tory either with their rape clause for child benefit.
Everyone seems to hate women.

Sarahconnor1 · 17/04/2018 16:43

Ereshkigal yes it looks like Jennifer is meeting with legals next week with a view to starting court proceedings

Sarahconnor1 · 17/04/2018 16:37

No discussion or debate nicely illustrates the utter contempt the labour party now hold for womans opinions experiences and concerns. I know some people argue to stay and fight from within, but that is frankly pointless now. i wont be voting for a party that doesnt represent me.

Hopefully i will have an independent candidate I can vote for. Otherwise it cartoons and slogans for me.

Ereshkigal · 17/04/2018 16:18

So from the update JJ posted which I received by email, she seemed to be saying they were now going to proceed with legal action, is that right? Haven't been on social media much today.

CackleCrackle · 17/04/2018 16:14

it's slightly worrying to share any concerns with grass roots tories!
Casual dismissal of women's spaces though - exactly.

Havoc · 17/04/2018 16:01

It will be interesting to see if the number of TIM included on AWS represent the proportion of TIM in the population.

It will be interesting to hear what the Labour party are doing to insure TIF are included in decision making.

Popchyk · 17/04/2018 15:46

I'm also a bit surprised by the wording. I would have expected a bit more obfuscation around it.

Very clear that those males who do not have a GRC are able to be on All-Women Shortlists in the Labour Party.

It seems like this should be quite a simple case, no? It is a single issue, not complicated and shouldn't take long to get to court.

Be very interesting. Not that I care a whit about Labour any more, but I'd really like to know how a court would rule on this. Because this sort of casual dismissal of women's spaces has far-reaching effects beyond Labour's back yard.

LangCleg · 17/04/2018 15:37

Wrote to my MP, who is not a Corbynite, a few weeks ago. I've yet to have a response.

I hate to say it but you'll likely be disappointed. Gender affirmation is the one thing the Corbynites and the centrists can actually bond over.

SirVixofVixHall · 17/04/2018 15:30

If the Conservatives talk any sense on this I will be voting for them, for the first time ever. I will not vote for any party who doesn’t care about the safety , privacy and rights of women and girls. I’ve begun to think that politicians in general hate women.

Anyone know what Jess Phillips thinks of all this ? She seems a decent person, with integrity.

flowersonthepiano · 17/04/2018 15:28

I dunno. I am still a member (just). Wrote to my MP, who is not a Corbynite, a few weeks ago. I've yet to have a response. I may follow up based on this. She was selected via an AWS, and I did mention that in my first letter...

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 17/04/2018 15:28

They did not consult as promised, they did not discuss. They just decided

I'm very surprised that they stated it quite so clearly given that TIMs (Trans-identifying males) with no GRC (gender reassignment certificate) on AWS (all-women shortlists) is probably illegal.

SirVixofVixHall · 17/04/2018 15:26

@TurningTables @Winewinewinegin Absolutely.

RosenbergW · 17/04/2018 15:19

Do you think they released this now as a virtue signal in response to the grassroots conservatives statement against self ID?

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