The Guardian: I'm boycotting it

does anyone remember a similar thread from a couple of years ago?
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Back then, a lot of posters were very anti Murdoch papers like the Times, and more supportive of the Guardian. I wonder if the Guardian has changed - or has MN?

Even the freebie is banned in casa fekko. I took it as a student and was gobsmacked at how 'trendy trendy right on' it is now -was it ways that blatant? It actually gets me quite angry! I tend to skim through the whole paper and pick put juicy bits but I can't get through a page on the guardian without muttering 'oh fuck off' 'that's bloody stupid' 'grow up you tit'...

We got it a few times (free) with a waitrose shop. I wouldn't even use it as loo roll if I ran out.

Free paper at Waitrose, obviously...

HairyBall describes my news situation almost perfectly. I gave up on the Guardian post Cologne, after many many many years of buying and subscribing. I just can't pay money to that rag now, though I will occasionally go on the website to see their take on certain things (like education) as well as to read the wonderful Hadley and the usually amusing Lucy Mangan

The Telegraph is worth it for the Matt cartoons alone, TBH, but I also like their international coverage and the crosswords. I get a perverse enjoyment out of Norman Tebbitt's column - I rarely agree with him, but he does at least listen and engage with his readers and critics, and I like debate and reasoning.

I will probably subscribe to the Time when the current cheap offer expires, if only to support Janice Turner and Andrew Gilligan. I'm considering the New Statesmen, but find it less appealing overall.

Another one who's switched from reading the Guardian at all to a Times subscription; will choose the Telegraph as my free paper. Also read/buy The Economist, FT and NS from time to time. The Times and the Telegraph have a broad range of opinion and do a better job of holding the government to account than either the opposition or the left wing press.

My politics are more centrist than left, though, so never had an obvious newspaper home but agree we should all read from a range of sources. It's fascinating not just the bias in different news sources (state the bleeding obvious) but the lack of coverage at all of some stories by some outlets. I don't think dyed in the wool supporters of one paper only (or political party...) get this at all.

I've read the Telegraph for years. Used to read the Guardian alongside it and balance the viewpoints out, but now the Graun is shite and whiney. I might have to look into the Times. I do like the Saturday Telegraph though with all those crosswords!

I also have a Spectator sub - they have some interesting & intelligent stuff.

(I feel guilty not getting the NS too but as it’s still free online...)

We still get the Guardian on Saturday but it’s a pathetic shadow of its former self so we were on the verge of giving it up - might switch to the Times (Telegraph a step too far to the R!)

Those of you currently on cheap trials of the Times - they have a cheap online subscription, which they don’t advertise, but will offer you if you ring to cancel - instead of £6 a week it’s £2-something. It’s phone only during the week (I think) plus tablet at weekends - because it suits the format better or something???

I prefer to use the website anyway as the app doesn’t show comments.

And another one who switched from the Guardian to the Times after decades. It's good to have my left wing views / assumptions challenged, they have had some fantastic investigative reporting into child abuse scandals, the police etc. A real mix of anti and pro Brexit articles and of course Janice T.

The Times still reads like an 'ethical' investigative newspaper while the Guardian appears to be censoring in order to shape the world in its on image IYSWIM?

I'm going to check out the FT based on the recommendation of this thread.

They seem to be in need of cash and readers.
Does anyone currently have a subscription with the Guardian? Perhaps you could forward them this thread...

Haven't bought The Guardian for months now. I buy The Times at the weekend (one of the days) and the I paper. Might dabble with the FT one weekend....

The Times is doing great stuff for women’s rights recently.

If anyone in your house has a student card/Unidays, you can get a year’s subscription for £20.

I lived on the Guardian website up until 2-3 years ago but was becoming steadily for quite a while before that. Thank dog I found MN!

Now I hardly ever go on there unless it's for the food - I still buy the Saturday edition because of the food section and Observer for Food Monthly (although it can often be a metropolitanfoodiewankfest...)

I feel bad that I still give them money because they are quite simply a fucking disgrace and have been for years.

It's sad though, as the Guardian used to be great.

I like Lucy Mangan, and Hadley Freeman.
Have never read the FT. Will give it a go. Grauniad really is beyond parody these. The blind date thing, man after man after man. So many more men than women.

They have some damn fine women journalists as well - Gillian Tett, Merryn Somerset Webb, among others.

I can recommend the FT. It does actual journalism - proper analysis, data driven reporting, etc - not endless comment like the Grauniad. The editorial line is somewhat to the right of my own views but I quite like that. Keeps me out of an echo chamber and away from tribalism.

I used to like Lucy Mangan...

Another Waitrose shopper here who has stopped getting the Guardian, I always choose the Times now.

You take my stanley max away from my cold dead hands! Re

Oh God, Lass.

I'd totally forgotten about Julie Myerson. No way should the Guardian have published that - totally unfair on the children.

And Tim Dowling. Didn't he have a ding-dong on here about MNers saying true mean things about him?

And Phil Hogan in The Observer writing about fatherhood, which apparently means talking and writing about yourself all the time.

Christ.

My favourite ever Guardian Women headline was 'Who needs a man when you have an electric screwdriver'. It was about power tools, of course.

whereas the Guardian has fallen into a clickbait rabbit hole and doesn't even want to get out.

It's one of those things that I suppose the paywall has been able to secure for the Times. The Graun will be very dependant on ad revenue as fewer people buy the physical paper, and will need to generate clicks (much like MailOnline).

I don't bother with any 'news' (said loosely) papers. Hard to know what to believe in ANY of them.

I prefer to research anything that interests me.

I watched C4 news the other night - it made me feel physically sick, it was so fake.

Can't remember the last time I watched ITV/BBC news channels.