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For all 'birthing people'

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Pratchet · 17/04/2018 07:41

Here is a survey on the terms used during your care and which you prefer

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pastabest · 17/04/2018 23:10

apples I had never really thought of it that way....

littleducks · 17/04/2018 23:03

You would think that if they were trying so hard to be inoffensive with language they wouldn't use brainstorm...

Applesandpears23 · 17/04/2018 22:54

It always makes me laugh that midwives say ‘birth canal’ it was the vagina on the way in, it is still the vagina on the way out!

StringandGlitter · 17/04/2018 22:39

So presumably there’s a follow up survey from medical staff that treat prostate issues and give vasectomies etc. of their patients’ preferred terms?

E.g do you prefer:

Penis
Cock
Dick
Willy
Vlad the impaler
Lady stick
Gender-neutral stick
Ralph
Other

No? Oh only women who cant use the accepted names for their body parts? I see.

Doobigetta · 17/04/2018 22:32

I completed the survey and explained that I find the term "pregnant and birthing people" problematic.

Flomper · 17/04/2018 22:27

I don't get the difference between vaguna and vaginal cavity and vaginal whatever. Surely if you're bizarrely offended by one, you'd be offended by all of them.

All this pussy footing around certain men who, suddenly, after 100s of years of oppression, want a vagina and get upset if anyone mentions their own vaginas, is really starting to get on my biological tits!

I think I put flaps for that one.

UpstartCrow · 17/04/2018 22:21

@TinLizzy Yes. What did you put? Grin

sunnyjune · 17/04/2018 22:04

Ooooooooh this got me SO MAD

insufficientlyfeminine · 17/04/2018 20:45

BMacklin it's still a castle, get yourself moat or perhaps a nice tapestry.

BerkInBag · 17/04/2018 20:08

@JellySlice - you're right. I read it properly this time. 😡

Lefthanddown · 17/04/2018 19:56

The Facebook link wasn't accessible when I saw it on twitter, so glad you managed to get a copy.

The new names for midwives that are coming up on twitter are quite funnny

mobile.twitter.com/emily_zinos/status/986103633023561729

GenderApostate · 17/04/2018 19:35

I would love to know what the UK Association of Radical Midwives make of all this .

Pratchet · 17/04/2018 19:35

'Two pounds and a box of Quality Street and someone says womb'

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JellySlice · 17/04/2018 19:28

That's what I thought this link was about, midwives deciding on terms to address pregnant Trans men who, in spite of giving birth, don't want to be reminded of their female biology.

I read it as considering what terms to use to address all pregnant females, in order to avoid upsetting the miniscule number of transmen who get pregnant but may not want to be reminded that they remain female.

BMacklin · 17/04/2018 19:19

Wet myself laughing at vaginal chamber and vaginal cathedral. Because mine unfortunately is more like a deflated bouncy castle.

BerkInBag · 17/04/2018 19:05

I’m a midwife and I will guarantee you that I will NEVER refer to a woman as a ‘person with labia’ or to breastfeeding as ‘chest feeding’

But if the pregnant person you were caring for was a Trans Identifying Female (FTM) they might request you do refer to them as a "labouring man" who after the birth wanted to "chest feed".

That's what I thought this link was about, midwives deciding on terms to address pregnant Trans men who, in spite of giving birth, don't want to be reminded of their female biology.

That's why I wondered on the use of womb as opposed to uterus. However, I understand now that's linked to Brexit so all's well with the world Grin

NotTerfNorCis · 17/04/2018 18:45

Ironic that they accuse feminists of 'reducing women to their anatomy', when they've twisted things so that the only way to refer to women is by their anatomy.

Buckingfrolicks · 17/04/2018 18:28

"Gender outlaw"!

insufficientlyfeminine · 17/04/2018 18:19

As great as a vaginal chamber sounds, I prefer mine to be called a vaginal cathedral. Does this mean I'm tax exempt?

Maryz · 17/04/2018 18:06

I filled it in, putting "other" and the original word for every question. And finished with comments that I am female and should be able to talk about myself any way I like. Forcing me to use terms I'm unhappy with is exclusionary and bigoted.

I wonder will they include it, or chuck it in the "falls outside the parameters of this study" pile Hmm

They didn't ask me where I was from.

ibicus · 17/04/2018 17:37

Chestfeeding roflGrin

Melamin · 17/04/2018 17:24

I had one of those tears too. It bled a lot.

usernameinfinito · 17/04/2018 17:22

My vaginal chamber is not open for visitors atm as it is otherwise engaged with periodical matters.

TinLizzy · 17/04/2018 17:19

Am I the only one who has put ridiculous answers then Blush.

Spam88 · 17/04/2018 17:12

Oh clitoris was said a lot to me! Two midwives we're discussing at great length what to do about the tear to my clitoris, then a doctor got in on the action as well (and informed me they were being dramatic, it was the skin next to my clitoris - fucking hurt either way).