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Justine stands up for FWR in The Times

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SwearyG · 15/04/2018 00:21

Justine is quoted in The Times today saying that TRAs are pressuring advertisers to withdraw from the site but they’re willing to take the hit to keep the discussion open. It’s very heartening after the threads of the last few days re FWR being hidden and the worries about this space being censored.

Flowers to @JustineMumsnet - thank you.

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rowdywoman1 · 15/04/2018 07:24

Well done to MNHQ and also to the Times - the bastions of free speech in this mad world we appear to be inhabiting.

borntobequiet · 15/04/2018 07:16

Well done Mumsnet. And Andrew Gillian too, according to the byline.

RogerAllamsFangirl · 15/04/2018 07:11
Thanks

I will boycott anyone who withdraws advertising, Justine.

Umm, except Waitrose. Grin

SpartacusTheCat · 15/04/2018 07:06

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PlowerOfScotland · 15/04/2018 07:01

Thank you, genuinely.

They went low, @MNHQ went high.

Lefty99 · 15/04/2018 06:54

Thank you so much Justine and everyone at MN who work so hard to help women and support free speech - you are amazing Flowers Flowers Flowers

CapnHaddock · 15/04/2018 05:59

Thanks Justine SmileSmileSmileSmileStarStarCakeFlowersFlowersFlowersCakeCake

womanformallyknownaswoman · 15/04/2018 05:52

Thank you Justine and @MNHQ for making a stand - such a relief Flowers Flowers Flowers Flowers Flowers Flowers Flowers Flowers

I also want to add I have emailed Accor the group that owns the Mercure Group including Mercure Cardiff and advised them I will no longer do any business with them, business or personal, and will advise my friends to do the same.

FYI They hosted a sex offender on their premises, who has now been banned from all spas in Wales - haven't a link but it was on Twitter - shame they didn't have more safeguarding measures in place …….

TimbuktuTimbuktu · 15/04/2018 05:19

Thank you Justine! ThanksThanks

It is so amazing that you are prepared to take a stand for women and our rights.

Advertisers really need to think about who their core demographic is!

FlaviaAlbia · 15/04/2018 05:07

This is the best news for ages. Its amazing to see Justine make a public stance on this Flowers

LiquoriceTea · 15/04/2018 04:43

For those that want to be women there is so much anger and threatening behaviour towards women. Coming onto a predominantly women's website and threatening sponsors just because they want the ability to talk. Its so wrong .

Thankyou Justine.

thebewilderness · 15/04/2018 03:49

I think it is the gender fluid police officers that give them pause more than the wolf.

TerfinUSA · 15/04/2018 03:42

The idea of a boycott by TRAs is rather amusing. On the one hand you have a key advertising demographic making family purchasing decisions, on the other you have the likes of Tara Wolf, violent unemployed criminal. I mean it doesn't really compute, does it.

Trousersdontmakemeaman · 15/04/2018 02:36

Where is the @crispbuttyfan when we need a friend to celebrate?

AnitaLovesVictor · 15/04/2018 02:30

MNetters on twitter might want to post their support respectfully on @mumsnettowers too.

This is a great thing Justine has done for the free speech of women.

DarthArts · 15/04/2018 02:25

In the meantime post on the AIBU thread Grin

Respectfully of course.

womanhuman · 15/04/2018 02:25

Justine FlowersBrew

AnitaLovesVictor · 15/04/2018 02:23

Absolutely - WTGLWGH all the way.

Mumsnet has always been absolutely clear that we have to follow respectful talk guidelines.

Now pease put us (FWR) back in Active @MNHQ !! Would really appreciate it. Thanks

DarthArts · 15/04/2018 02:19

I posted on the thread AIBU (given its in active conversations unlike us here in the sin bin Wink) but I want to say again a huge thank you.

I really appreciate the effort MN has gone to to keep this debate open.

I did wonder if something might be brewing after Janice Turner's article wrt (I paraphrase) MN having no policy on the matter other than to allow freedom of discussion.

It's a great point to make your stand on, especially given recent events.

The Mecure Hotel tweets were out of line, but it took them 2 days to remove them.

That said it's a good reminder that the reason why they had to back down was the respectful and reasoned approach WPUK has always taken.

WTGLWGH absolutely worked here and we should keep that in mind.

WombOfOnesOwn · 15/04/2018 01:56

THANK YOU, Justine. It means the world to hear this.

TurningWood · 15/04/2018 01:49

A dozen women in my family and two friends along with one friends mum are boycotting M&S clothing because they let men in the women and girls changing rooms.

I am slowly working my way through women I know to keep them safe. Give it up M&S, there are more of us. Put back the sex exemptions in female changing rooms.

DannyLaRuesBestFrock · 15/04/2018 01:49

Go 'ed Justine 🙌🙌🙌🙌

AnitaLovesVictor · 15/04/2018 01:33

I spend hundreds of pounds a month in Tesco - feeding family of 5 plus pets.

I also spend a lot of money in various other MN advertisers - I buy birdseye fishfingers (far too lazy to make my own!), M&S, Boots, loads.

Hopefully the advertisers will know who spends the most money with them. Very glad to hear they haven't lost any advertisers.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 15/04/2018 01:29

Thank you Barracker

Thank you Justine.

As a group of people, us women, regardless of how much money we have, are usually left with the choosing of goods and services. So I haven't bought Nestle products for 30 years, haven't bought from amazon/starbucks et al for donkey's years. We have principles. Doesn't matter how small or big an impact it might have on the organisation selling. We hold the purse strings. MN has huge audience of people who listen and think. We'll see.

R0wantrees · 15/04/2018 01:14

The threats are the latest move in a campaign by transgender activists to inhibit discussion of potential legal changes that would allow people born male to self-identify as women.

Thank you for for standing firm!