Justine stands up for FWR in The Times

Thank you so much Justine and everyone at MNHQ.

I loved this comment on the Times article:

15 blue-haired weirdos threaten to boycott companies that advertise to millions of mostly middle-class mothers of young children via Mumsnet. Boden and Ella’s Kitchen must be crapping themselves.

We luffs you MNHQ

Understood that threads about threads are bad form, but in the "Am I Being Unreasonable" section of Mumsnet, there's a thread titled "AIBU to be extremely proud of Justine Roberts & Mumsnet right now?" and it has over 600 postings, mostly favourable (life's to short to read them all). But leaving aside what people are saying there, this is all being said by women (and maybe a few men) who are seeing the topic on a general discussion forum, not one oriented towards feminism like this one. It really seems that when women have a chance to speak out about the trans issue, they've got a pretty negative opinion about it. People who'd be very hard to dismiss as "Trans Excluding Radical Feminists" when many of them wouldn't define themselves as feminists at all!

I was a very gender non conforming child my mum was initially as she is the most maternal motherly person but ultimately she knew that I was who I was. I grew up to be a perfectly normal adult woman but I worry if I had been born 20 years later I would have been a target for trans.

But I'm not trans and I am sure as hell I can't identify out of all the shit that comes with being a biological women.

Well fuck me if there isn’t an upside to the emotional load of running a household after all... because we hold the purse strings, we buy the washing powder (and Book the holidays and sort out the car insurance and do the food shop and everything else.)

I’d be intrigued to know what pence in the pound is under women’s control on the high street. I’ve seen it mentioned at 70-80%.

Advertisers would be very foolish indeed to pull over this issue. The spending power of the women of MN is significant

The power of MN, eh?
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3222845-to-ask-if-you-ve-bought-something-because-of-Mumsnet?

Thank you, Justine and MNHQ.

yetanothertranswoman

What would supporting trans activists look like?
Refusing to allow discussion.
Refusing to recognise women's concerns.
Refusing to respect women's boundaries.
Using 'cis' or 'terf'.
Remaining silent or supporting violence against women by males who identify as trans.
Campaigning for women to be fired or excluded for raising concerns.
Campaigning for changes to legislation that will negatively impact women.
Telling girls they are boys if they are unfeminine in some way, and vice versa.
Telling lesbians they are transphobic if they aren't interested in sex with males.
Giving business or votes to orgs that support Mermaids etc.

I could go on?

Thanks Anlaf it's been a long time coming to be fair. Cleary radicalized by MN

Welcome Sarah and at the other lurkers

I just want to replicate a post I put in AIBU

Sarahconnor1

Argh look at what you made me do I have only gone and joined mumsnet. I have been lurking for a long time but wanted to add my thanks to Justine and the team. I also want to thank posters on the fwr who have helped me clarify my own thoughts on this issue. Agree with some other poster I suspect this is a (largely silent) majority rather than a sizeable minority.

Also I can't talk about this irl as a public sector worker it would all but destroy my career.

Thanks all! You are immense

Thank you to Justine and colleagues at Mumsnet for doing the right thing. History will thank you for it.

Along with everyone else I'll stand with you and support your decision by keeping the debate civil and by supporting your advertisers who respect our right to free speech.

The tide is turning.

And to all at MNHQ, and the advertisers who don't give into misogynistic bullies.

Thank you Justine!

Thank you from me too Justine. I became aware of these issues through this board at a time when they were barely being reported in the media. Thank you for your strength in standing up for free speech.

Thank you Justine and all at Mumsnet!

Thank you MN!

Supporting trans activists does both

What would supporting trans activists look like?

So glad to see MN standing up for women and free discussion and debate!

Agreed @Apples in my Pocket. Thank you very muchly MN.

We are all in danger of bending to the TRA right-wing ideology of loving capitalism. I am not buying any more than I need as an answer to bullying by a group of toddler men.

This. But I will switch shops and brands on the things I do buy, if I think a company is advocating child abuse or erasing women. Supporting trans activists does both.

I basically don't buy anything any more without first checking what mumsnetters think of it.

This too, but I have to check a million reviews before I buy anything these days..

So impressed by your stance, Justine and MN! Thank you

I think what's helpful is if you decide to boycott a business because of their lack of safeguarding measures for women and girls and lack of recognition of sex matters - tell them and why

Thank you to Justine, MN Towers, and the three advertisers who refused to be bullied!

Thank you Mumsnet! Politicians listen to mumsnetters and this is important