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Behold! The new liberation movement (or know your enemy)

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Jog22 · 14/04/2018 01:48

www.slideshare.net/mobile/RowanDavis4/how-to-deal-with-terfs-93651217

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PencilsInSpace · 14/04/2018 10:31

Idea of ‘sex-based oppression’ with scare quotes. Marvellous stuff Hmm

I don't think Dworkin has a lot to answer for. She died 13 years ago and the quote is 44 years old. Things change.

Simone de Beauvoir also doesn't have a lot to answer for, for writing 'One is not born, but rather becomes, a woman' almost 70 years ago.

Both are used completely out of context as a kind of 'gotcha' by people with an agenda who have rarely read any further than their cherry-picked quote.

ElenOfTheWays · 14/04/2018 10:01

Biological sex itself is something that was invented just to hurt trans people's feelings, apparently.

Well I know I did. What else is it for? Grin

AngryAttackKittens · 14/04/2018 09:36

Biological sex itself is something that was invented just to hurt trans people's feelings, apparently.

HerFemaleness · 14/04/2018 09:34

I see that sex based oppression is an idea we created just to invalidate trans people. Who knew!

MissPiggysKarateChop · 14/04/2018 09:29

“We are what we always were in Salem, but now the little crazy children are jangling the keys of the kingdom, and common vengeance writes the law!”
― Arthur Miller, The Crucible

Burn those witches

flowersonthepiano · 14/04/2018 09:27

" Work with transsexuals, and studies of formation of gender identity in children provide basic information which challenges the notion that there are two discrete biological sexes. That information threatens to transform the traditional biology of sex difference into the radical biology of sex similarity… Every transsexual is entitled to a sex-change operation, and it should be provided by the community as one of its functions." Andrea Dworkin (this person has a lot to answer for).

WeAreGerbil
You're right. We need to emphasize the boundaries issue. The girl guides campaign is really good for this.

WeAreGerbil · 14/04/2018 09:20

It makes me think we need to subvert their message, e.g. instead of how to deal with TERFs how to deal with women who have been raped and want safe space, or how to deal with teenage school girls who already experience high levels of sexual harassment who want privacy changing, or how to deal with mental health patients with psychosis who are being told a man is a woman. Just calling us TERFs hides all these things.

flowersonthepiano · 14/04/2018 09:18

OMFG! They actually believe that there are not two sexes. Do all those politicians supporting the cause and waving their liberal credentials about actually know what they are supporting here. Angry

NotTerfNorCis · 14/04/2018 09:17

Let's hope they do get familiar with 'TERF' arguments. It may change some minds.

SuburbanRhonda · 14/04/2018 09:05

Also LM has re-tweeted it - tells you all you need to know really.

SuburbanRhonda · 14/04/2018 09:02

So many typos I can’t take it seriously.

WeAreGerbil · 14/04/2018 08:58

That's official NUS stuff? Scary. I notice also it specifically mentions transwomen a couple of times but not transmen.

morningrunner · 14/04/2018 08:39

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thebewilderness · 14/04/2018 03:09

Pretty standard stuff . Promote the interests of males and ignore women who say no.