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Incensed by a historical documentary on women

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Pinky222 · 13/04/2018 10:45

Firstly I'm not religious and know only the basics of Christianity so apologies for my hitherto ignorance . Watched Jesus Female Disciples disciples Channel 4. Two brilliant academic women uncovering the staggering erosion of women from history. How ancient drawings show women as bishops and how women were far more than the depicted handmaidens and prostitutes but respected disciples working equally alongside men. If you watch it, the scene in St Peters Square was the peak for me. It is terrifying how male power has been able to simply erase women.

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StrangeOddment · 13/04/2018 11:06

Jesus has a group of 12 men in the New Testament, but also named as disciples (and benefactors) are a fair number of women. Including a lot of Marys, as Mary was apparently the female equivalent of Dave back in the day. Mary the mother of Jesus, Mary the mother of James, Mary of Magdala/the Magdalen/Magdalene. Also a Susanna, I think.

The book of Romans is a letter to the church in Rome and includes 'Greet Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae' most likely because she is the person carrying the letter to them.
There's also Prisca/Priscilla in Romans 16, as well as Junia who along with Andronicus is 'outstanding among the apostles'.

Oh, and Lydia of Thyatira, who is a businesswoman, hears the Gospel, gets herself baptised and sets up a church in her household. She's in...the Book of Acts and also the letter to the Philippians I think. She's the first named convert to Christianity in Europe.

There are more, but that's all I've got off the top of my head right now!

There had to be male and female deacons because one of the jobs of deacons was to baptise new converts. Which at the time often had the new converts immersed in water while buck naked. Which obviously you don't really want to be doing with the opposite sex around.

AnitaLovesVictor · 13/04/2018 10:56

Yes I agree. When my DD did a project on Ada Lovelace for school, I discovered that her work had been erased from history, and was only uncovered in the 1950s. It makes you wonder how many other women's work has never been rediscovered.

I'll look up that C4 programme - thanks.

Thanksforthatamazingpost · 13/04/2018 10:55

I think the celibacy thing was about 10th century?

Melamin · 13/04/2018 10:50

The priesthood being male and celebate was a later addition from what I have learned (no expert either but interested).

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