Feminist playgroup mention of TERFs...

Just had a look at Etsy. In the Get the L out of LGBT badge, the L stands for lout. Not obvious, granted, but the other badges from that seller includes Woman not Cis.

I reported “Terf stomper” badges, with a pic of a DM boot on, to Etsy ages ago, they didn’t remove them.

I reported the fuck terfs merchandise before. It was also covered in the Spectator. Etsy would do well do remove them as people are starting to realise what it means and the link to incitement to violence.

A friend was browsing Etsy today and found badges with the logo Fuck terfs for sale and also with the logo Get the L out of LGBT . I don’t know who the seller is. She has reported it to Etsy as being in breach of their equality etc policies. So you could raise this as an example and innocently ask what people think.

I tried listening to the Riley clip. Lordy how that person does go on. I actually stopped be8ng able to listen at all. It just became annoying white noise with the word “genitals” repeated at regular intervals. Sort of rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb (whiney voice ) rhubarb GENITALS rhubarb .
I think I need a little lie down and then some Magdalen Berns.

doricgirl

I know it's really hard to speak up on these issues, but when we do we give other women permissions to do so too.

You can publicly object in the most kitten-soft way:

"Hi guys, I am totally on board with being inclusive of everyone and on that I'd just like to point out that "TERF" is a slur which is used against women for having an opinion that other people don't like, just like 'bitch' or 'c*nt'. We don't have to agree with other peoples opinions but if we are going to be using sexist slurs I can't be a part of this group."

and if they object just direct them to terfisaslur.com and make your exit.

@doricgirl I've sent you a pm

They’ve been given a name, a name that means they’re bad people, people who should not speak and should not be heard. That name is “Terf,” which once meant “Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist” but now appears to stand in its own right as a term of abuse and dismissal alongside the other short, harsh words often used to question the worth and virtue of women.

If it can be argued by many an activist that the meaning of words change (and there is no denying they evolve over time but not at the rapid rate they are suggesting the meaning of and established and grounded “woman” has changed) at the rate they suggest, then surely we can use the same argument back and say the meaning (of the new and not generally previously societally accepted) of TERF has changed from the original descriptor to a slur word.

TERF has far less grounding in our language, in our brains than “woman” so we can argue that we are at the forefront of deciding what defines it and they themselves have proved with their constant use of it that it has changed from a mere description to a slur.

If on one hand they say so readily that words and meanings change and apply it to “woman” then they must also accept that it is more than equally applicable to the far yes established word (and it’s used as a word so often, I see it as accepted as such) “TERF”.

Some excellent resources on here. I say join, and patiently explain you're fighting for women and girls. Who are disadvantaged because of their biology - and who are being banned from talking about their biology, their own reality, by people shouting terf.

The transwoman shouting 'terf, terf, terf' along with other obscenities, before she/he was pushed aside by a policeman, is in court tomorrow for punching a 60yr old woman.

Hardly something we want to aspire to.

Play them a bit of Rapey J Penis

Are Terfs those people who think women weren't excluded from sport because of their feelings of femininity? They think segregated women's sport was created because of their bodies? So transmisogynistixclusionarycissexiselfish!

These people don't like terfs either - the blonde is Tanis Woolf.

www.facebook.com/womansplaceuk/videos/575443279476529

Plus anyway women and girls have too many rights, time to give some of them.

notthenewsinbriefs.wordpress.com/2018/04/05/have-women-and-girls-got-too-many-rights/

My autocorrect is trying to de terf me. It keeps putting transwomen as two words!

Oh I've heard of terfs. They're the ones who say that statistically it's safer for a man to transition as the murder rate for trans women in the UK is so low. Also I think they say trans women are more likely to be murderers than be murdered.

We don't want any of those types round 'ere!

Are Terfs those people who question statistics which cite high suicide rates of transgender children, and quote the Tavistock who said there's only been one suicide in the last ten years?

And Maria, 60, who was assaulted at Speakers Corner for talking about women rights. By a man. Tanis Woolf, about half her age.

Yes. Do that.

Which is why aerating their objections to the fore is useful.

"Are terfs those people who criticised that trans activist who attacked Rose Byrne, because he happened to be a paedophile?"

You could have a lot of fun. "I've heard that these TERFs object to the term front hole because they say a vagina is a passage. That can't be right? People like this exist?"

Agree with this suggestion!

Red. There you are making perfect sense.

Presumably they can’t allow it any space because as soon as logic enters, the majority might see the truth.

I think you've hit the nail on the head there. It is shockingly aggressive how transactivists colonise female spaces.

Terf just means female that talks about biology. Thats it.

Nothing to do with trans issues.