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Urgent! Sign our open letter to Girlguiding UK

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AgnesBadenPowell · 11/04/2018 19:08

IMPORTANT! Deadline 9pm Thursday

We (me and the awesome team at Fair Play For Women and some others) will be publishing an open letter to Girlguiding in a national newspaper this Sunday. We set out the safeguarding concerns with their trans policy that allows a male child who identifies as a girl to share sleeping, dressing and washing facilities with girls, and that parents are not allowed to know. We also highlight that Females who identify as boys are expected to leave, disproportionately impacting lesbian girls.

We are now asking for our supporters to sign the open letter. I obviously need your name - you can PM me with your name, and indicate whether you are a parent, Leader, former member, grandparent, aunty, concerned member of the public etc. OR you can complete the online form here:

fairplayforwomen.com/add-your-name/

We can’t publish the full text of the letter but all the issues are summarised in this factsheet and can be seen in more detail this report.

https://fairplayforwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/FPFWGirlguidess_factsheet.pdf

https://fairplayforwomen.com/guide-leaders-call-for-halt/

Spread the word and the link and lets get as many signatures as possible. Girlguiding has made a big misstep with this policy. As a Leader, I don't do this lightly. It's not my intention to embarrass Girlguiding but they MUST listen to our concerns about this policy - concerns shared by legal and child protection experts as well as parents and leaders.

You can read about the Girlguiding policy question here (and click through to the specific guidance on residentials): www.girlguiding.org.uk/making-guiding-happen/policies/girlguiding-policies/equality-and-diversity-policy/transgender-gender-reassignment/

Girlguiding's most recent statement on this issue can be read here: www.girlguiding.org.uk/what-we-do/our-stories-and-news/news/coverage-of-equality-diversity-policy/

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AgnesBadenPowell · 11/04/2018 20:00

@mummybear701 there is evidence that lesbian girls display higher rates of gender non conforming behaviours. Studies are cited here www.transgendertrend.com/child-transgender-gay-neither/

The GG policy states that leaders should commence discussions with girls who do not identify as girls as when they will leave and sign post them to other organisations.

The fact remains that these young women are still female - the very group GG was set up to support and empower. I understand that a girl who transitions may not want to stay in GG - but we shouldn't assume and we shouldn't base guidance on the basis of exclusion, at a time when a girl needs support more than ever.

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ReluctantCamper · 11/04/2018 19:51

WTGLWGH

mummybear701 · 11/04/2018 19:49

More conflation of lesbian with transgender. Is there any evidence of lesbian girls being asked to leave. Its not as if even transgender can start testosterone, grow beard and muscle etc.

Freshlylaidterf · 11/04/2018 19:45

Signed

AgnesBadenPowell · 11/04/2018 19:43

Thank you. Did al the links below work for you? They look fine to me on the app but are all over the place on the web version.

I would encourage anyone who wants to sign to use the Fair Play For Women contact page - makes admin much easier and no need to out yourself to me either!

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CircleSquareCircleSquare · 11/04/2018 19:42

Signed and will share.

BettyFloop · 11/04/2018 19:38

Signed - and I've posted the link on my Facebook page, together with an explanation, for others to sign too.

mimivanne · 11/04/2018 19:36

Agnes

Signed ,name and previous role in Guiding listed

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/04/2018 19:36

Would signing with first name and initial count? I am too scared to use my real surname as it is very unusual and I am scared of the backlash.

ReluctantCamper · 11/04/2018 19:27
Grin
AgnesBadenPowell · 11/04/2018 19:25

If you've signed the Facebook page, then you don't need to do anything else. You've been noted!

Blush I've never been called magnificent before! I am also very much not on my own with this. There's a little team. There are also magnificent.

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ReluctantCamper · 11/04/2018 19:14

Agnes - tis done.

I've said it before, but thank you so much for running with this. You are sane and kind and balanced and right, and also quite magnificent.

Flowers
invisibleoldwoman · 11/04/2018 19:13

I have added my name on the Facebook page. Does that count?

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