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Please help me clarify my thinking....

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Thanksforthatamazingpost · 07/04/2018 20:52

Have been on mumsnet since2008, on this board for a couple of months.(by the way, does clicking on my name show how long I’ve been around.)?

Here’s my issue/question:

When it comes to the vogue for children to be trans, I am absolutely opposed to prescription medication or surgery on children. I believe all children should be permitted to be gender non conforming. Fine to feminise/masculinise their own name too (kids have always done that).

However, when it comes to transitioning adults, much of the objection on this board is to do with the notion of transitioning without medical involvement (it is just self ID and a legal paperworkprocess).

Should we not be encouraging adults to experiment by just doing a social transition?

Please help me think!

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Thanksforthatamazingpost · 07/04/2018 21:54

Nice link!

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yetanothertranswoman · 07/04/2018 21:49

Should we not be encouraging adults to experiment by just doing a social transition

What would that look like?

When I transitioned, you had to 'socially transition' for a period of a year even before HRT was given. I was self medicating before that. I don't know if the rules have changed now.

Stilettosandan0venglove · 07/04/2018 21:45

I think you are half right, and avoiding unnecessary surgery on healthy body parts is a very good thing. As for transitioning, I would like the aim to be not to present oneself as the opposite sex, but to simply be the most fabulous version of oneself, dressing and behaving as one likes - providing that doesn't adversely affect anyone else, as appropriating their sex would.

Like this awesome human being: smashinggenderchange.wordpress.com/2017/01/28/a-call-to-feminine-men-to-erase-trans-madness/

Katara · 07/04/2018 21:43

I think the notion of self-ID as the opposite sex (ie a man self-identifying as a woman) is problematic because there is no gate-keeping at all. By experimenting, you mean being able to access all the opposite same-sex facilities, no questions asked.

I see the logic of making the process of getting a GRC less intrusive and onerous, but not at the price of having no safeguards. If it was self-ID as trans, that is a different matter, if rights to access the opposite same sex facilities did not automatically follow. Only the individual can say they are trans. But self-IDing as trans and having gender neutral facilities does not seem to be enough.