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Lily Madigan - Twitter Update

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DarthArts · 07/04/2018 20:43

LM has changed the name of their twitter account, deleted all previous posting history and unblocked lots of users.

Has tweeted (in response to someone else) that non-one has spoken to them about online behaviour.

LM did get in a twitter spat after comparing trans struggles to racism and slavery and got a lot of previous supporters complaining. LM did issue a twitter apology about this then took a twitter break and has resurfaced with this new "clean" account.

@Madigan_lils

So not sure what's happened here.

I would hope maybe a degree of self reflection.

As ever, let's make sure any posts are not offensive please.

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silvernutgoldenpear · 07/04/2018 22:27

Ah yes you're right! LM is back at

mobile.twitter.com/madigan_lily

And what do you know, I'm back to being blocked.

2rebecca · 07/04/2018 22:26

I didn't think Lily was yet on hormones or had had any surgery. I don't believe in fluffy pink girlie brains so believe I would be misgendering Lily to call Lily she. Happy to call men who have had full surgery and hormones she but I do think that it is nonsense to say people pick their own pronouns, also we call loads of people "he" or "she" in conversation if we see strangers depending on what gender they appear to be at a casual glance.

GurlwiththeCurl · 07/04/2018 22:26

I’m not blocked (yet) as I keep a low profile on Twitter. LM appears to have returned to the madigan_lily account again.

hipsterfun · 07/04/2018 22:26

I'm taking a small break from politics.

We can but hope.

silvernutgoldenpear · 07/04/2018 22:24

GurlwiththeCurl where are you seeing Lily's tweets?

RedToothBrush · 07/04/2018 22:24

Username @madigan_lily again. Its been changed a second time.

GurlwiththeCurl · 07/04/2018 22:23

LM’s latest tweet from a few minutes ago:
“I'm taking a small break from politics. Its a big part of my life but its difficult to engage in as a prominent trans woman. Its hard being attacked all the time, the regular smears, threats and being held to unreasonable standards. The stress isn't great either. Give me time.”

silvernutgoldenpear · 07/04/2018 22:23

@Mummyoflittledragon it was here but it's been deleted now.

mobile.twitter.com/madigan_lils

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/04/2018 22:22

Thanks

But it seems to me the regular posters using “he” are doing so not out of spite/in momentary anger but as a consistent and sustained political act.

MN is not the place for such acts, imo. Not if we want to be able to continue to discuss these issues. MNHQ have made things pretty clear.

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/04/2018 22:21

Bore, Thanksforthat
I used she today. Usually use they. Legally lily is male. So using he isn’t misgendering at all.

thebewilderness · 07/04/2018 22:18

This person reminds me of Hugo Schwyzer. A malignant narcissist who got a tremendous amount of mileage out of the sin and redemption cycle when he was posing as a male feminist educator.

Thanksforthatamazingpost · 07/04/2018 22:14

Bore:

I’m personally happy to use “she” as a courtesy. But it seems to me the regular posters using “he” are doing so not out of spite/in momentary anger but as a consistent and sustained political act.

hipsterfun · 07/04/2018 22:14

Struggling to see how reading somebody’s public Twitter is anything like stalking. It’s a social media platform designed to allow users to globally broadcast every half-formed thought that crosses their minds.

And considering what stalking actually is, and the effect it has, the comparison is in poor taste.

silvernutgoldenpear · 07/04/2018 22:14

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Should1stayorshould1go · 07/04/2018 22:10

cant be blocked; I only read twitter and have never signed up with the service

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/04/2018 22:10

In view of MNHQ's posts on other threads, I think misgendering is really unhelpful.

#TGLWGH

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/04/2018 22:10

Can someone please link me to the new twitter account. I can’t find it.

RedToothBrush · 07/04/2018 22:09

There is no way Lily would have said that without an epiphany moment or something having been said. (Or both).

Maybe the black woman comments have provoked that. But I do lean towards the intervention theory.

I am pleased to see a 'agree to disagree' response. It is desperately needed.

I would like to think this will be sustained.

I would dearly like to believe this is a genuine change.

The cynic in me thinks theres either a strongly worded letter from someone legal or something from Labour HQ about social media and the election thats forced it.

I hope that I am wrong and this continues after the election. I'm not holding breathe. Its going to take some time to rebuild damaged trust. Something that didn't need to happen.

I regard LM as a lost opportunity to prove that transwomen really think and have the same concerns as women. Instead LM by just making it all about trans, totally threw away that. Its sad for all. I think anyone who sees Lily as a brave hero for creating needless controversy, needs to seriously think about how else Lily could have handled things. No of it needed to happen.

The best thing Lily could do now, would be to prove all the 'cynical old transphobic witches' on MN wrong by behaving and not reverting to type.

Nothing would make me happier.

silvernutgoldenpear · 07/04/2018 22:09

Looks like the account @Madigan_lils no longer exists.

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/04/2018 22:08

Idk if lily is experiencing personal growth. The cynic in me sees the LP as trying to clean up her act as a way for her (young privileged TIMs) and autogynephiles to be accepted by the wider population in the wake of Man Friday etc. To paint natal women as bigots. It could be nothing more than a charm offensive tbh.

2rebecca · 07/04/2018 21:59

I was a student age 20 and although I was sensible in some ways I made some very silly decisions re men, was more insecure, had more extreme political views and was more of a drama queen.
Most personality disorders improve as people get older, probably part of feeling emotions less intensely.

thebewilderness · 07/04/2018 21:53

Hannah, I reported your defamatory comment.

donquixotedelamancha · 07/04/2018 21:49

You’d call me a transphobic because I believe you cannot change your sex but merely your gender presentation.

In response Lily replied:

Thank you, I don't think this makes you transphobic.

I've made the decision not to engage with mean people. Lots of trans activists cross the line.

I think the anti self ID campaign just lost it's best recruiter. While I am pleased that Lily seems to be experiencing personal growth, I'm saddened to lose a source of entertainment :-)

Nah, my better self agrees strongly with @2rebecca above. Someone has clearly had a strong word and hopefully Lily will be happier for it.

SirVixofVixHall · 07/04/2018 21:49

Doesn’t that mean you are blocked ?

Should1stayorshould1go · 07/04/2018 21:46

Now I have taken a moment to catch up on this whole saga and find that I get non-existant pages for both L Madigans usual account and the new lils madigan twitter? Interesting