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"Not All Men"

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MonsoonMama · 06/04/2018 14:26

I'm quite fussy with my friendships and like to think I choose my friends wisely. So I was pretty horrified when I downloaded my personal phone contacts to my Twitter account this morning and it threw up 2 pretty unpalatable accounts, both clearly men - one using a pseudonym that was full of cock shots (his own), and the other an anonymous account that incessantly trolls people, mainly about Brexit but there's also some nasty misogynistic stuff in there too (e.g. rape only exists when it's a stranger in a dark alley and the woman is visibly hurt and can prove it; upskirting and harassment are normal everyday occurrences that silly women should suck up etc etc). So these 2 accounts belong to men I know and liked (I have only friends and the odd very trusted plumber/painter in my personal phone contacts). I'm really quite floored by this and it's really making me think that all men are the f@@**ing same, even the "nice" ones when they think you're not looking...

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 06/04/2018 19:09

I'm with Lana on this one!! I love my husband and sons...the rest I can't give a shit about. When they stop abusing women then maybe but not until then, nope!

TheGoldenBough · 06/04/2018 18:45

If you won't do even that, then you have zero right to complain when women assume it is all men.

Yup.

Onemorning · 06/04/2018 14:59

What Lana said, with bells on.

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 06/04/2018 14:59

Oh and if you, as a man, don't like being lumped in with all the nasty ones, then instead of hating on women for calling out the abuse, start taking it up with the vast swathes of men who do the abusing.

Start with banter.

Everytime somone makes a joke about rape, or trys to slap the arse of a passing woman, or makes a lewd comment about a woman......call them out.

If a bloke leans out of his car and cat calls a woman on the street, pill him up on it.

If you won't do even that, then you have zero right to complain when women assume it is all men.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 06/04/2018 14:57

Yuk Flowers

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 06/04/2018 14:55

Yep.

In my lefty circle of friends the amount of guys who have this amazing veneer of being all caring and right on, anti fascist, eco warrior types, but underneath are either abusive, misogynistic, rapey etc is huge.

I've sadly come to the realization that it is the vast majority of men.

And any bloke who thinks thats mean and sexist can fuck right off.
I don't care anymore.

When men stop groping/raping/harrasing/being creepy about women.
When they stop mentally, emotinally, financially and physically abusing countless women.
When they stop being the cause of 98% of all violence.
When they stop doing things like sharing unwanted dick pics, making rapey jokes, or cat calling young girls in school uniform.
When they stop hating us....

I will stop hating them.

I have a son, a male partner, and a father.
I love them dearly and in the case of Dad and DP, they are the least sexist men I know.
But every so often one of them comes out with something fairly light but still inherently sexist, and it hammers home how entrenched this attitude is.

I hope I can raise my son to be the best man he can be.

But if me and DP ever split up, I am never hooking up with another man.
I'm bi, so I'll just stick with women, thanks.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 06/04/2018 14:45

Sounds grim Monsoon.

MrPan · 06/04/2018 14:41

"like to think I choose my friends wisely.."

So it seems your a bit self-delusional, rather than "all men are bastards" ???

Onemorning · 06/04/2018 14:40

I love the NAMALT in the second post.

Poor you OP. Flowers

DairyisClosed · 06/04/2018 14:29

Wow that's a bit sex it's of you. I would derelict what all of your other make contacts (the ones who don't have misogynistic twitter accounts) would think if they new you were making judgements about them based on what some other men you apparently trusted did.