A Woman's Place is Speaking up in Wales (Cardiff Meeting next week)

I think the organisers are well aware of the Hyde Park incident, and much more besides. Which is why it is all ticket, venue announced late on and there is security. All the WPUK events have been fine so far .

I feel worried about potential issues outside the venue too. What happened at Hyde Park (and in other places) is disgusting and an ironically typical display of male aggression.

Sold out . Great! How many people is that I wonder ? I am really looking forward to it but worrying about conflict outside. Then I feel furious that in 2018 a group of largely women can’t meet to discuss a political issue that affects women, without fearing aggression. How has it come to this ? What has happened to this country ?

Just seen on Twitter that tomorrow's event is sold out!

Yay!!! Looking forward to the updates.

Yay! Thanks for the information! Very much looking forward to it!

Just seen on Twitter that tomorrow's event is sold out!

@CisMyArse. I think tickets are non transferable, so perhaps email the organisers with the dds name ?

Just to add - I am not at all criticising the fact that arrangements have to be kept confidential. I fully understand this a necessity. And it is a necessity (cf the Millwall cancellation).

It's just the fact that, in 2018 FFS, feminist women have to be secretive about meeting with each other in order to discuss the rights of women and girls!

Anyway, if anyone spots me, I will be happy to buy you a drink

The fact that the venue cannot be revealed until tomorrow (cf the Millwall cancellation) just shows that feminist women are not the problem here - the problem lies with those who seek to deny women the right to meet and to discuss matters affecting women.
This is an atrocious situation.

Just to be clear as this is my first meeting, do I just wait for an email alert?

Also, I just realised, my friend bought her daughter the ticket so her daughters name isn't on it - what'll happen there?

Well done for engaging them!

I'm going. Taking a friend's daughter who's interested in gender politics, so I really hope there's no trouble.

Disappointing that it's equated to hate - we just have to stand firm if questioned and pushed about this.

Thanks Vix.

Anna McMorrin. Cardiff North MP.

Looking on the bright side, perhaps it will cut down on harrassment outside of the WPUK venue...

Which MP is attending? I don’t do Facebook.

Yes @Kalikan . I have been in that position too. Baffles me why anyone would dismiss so many kind, tolerant women as hate filled.

As expected, more than a few people I know are signed up as either interested or attending the 'support our trans community from hate' rally. Some of them I've known for years, and quite like as individuals. But it's so disappointing that they're unable or unwilling to think critically about what self-ID means for women & girls as a sex-class, and choose instead to interpret those of us wanting to talk about it as 'hating' trans people - that's some strange, circular logic that only works if you concede that those born female have fewer rights to discuss our needs and rights, to preserve our bodily dignity when vulnerable, and be protected from violence than those born male who 'idenify' as women. I find that really alarming, and inevitably think rather less of them as a result.

That's a great idea to offer your ticket to that mp
Extend the invitation to debate, listen to all arguments
I doubt she will take up the offer but do it officially and maybe she could come
Who knows

my initial reaction was to question myself in supporting WPUK. My rational self tells me that I am being gaslighted

Bing this is true for me too.

I read the blurb for the other events, and while I can see that the whole stand- up-against-hatred narrative is something that appeals to all of us, the contrast between the stirring up of conflict contrasted with Woman’s Place ‘s calm, rational and fair statements , is enormous.
Very disappointed in the Labour MP, but not surprised.

The only reason I know about the two other events is through someone I know, who highlighted the "Support our Trans Community Against Hate" on their social media. Without even looking at it I knew it would be on the same date as the WPUK event. And I was so disappointed in my friend, tbh. Glad I didn't send them the link to the petition now.

Being totally honest, when I read the blurb for the two other events, my initial reaction was to question myself in supporting WPUK. My rational self tells me that I am being gaslighted.

I notice a female labour MP is speaking at the other event. Why on earth would she not come and listen to the speakers at Womans Place ? Would be far more politically savvy for starters, to understand why labour voting women have left the party over this issue. Clearly it is easier to dismiss us all as hate-fuelled bigots. I am still stunned by the utter stupidity of that stance.

I've got a ticket, but plans have changed and I can't be there. 😥. If anyone needs an extra ticket, could you please let me know by noon tomorrow? Otherwise I'll offer it to a member of Plaid to give to Leanne Wood 🤣🤣🤣🤣