Transgender Weightlifter Story in Daily Mail! - will they let the comments through?

LapdanceShoeshine I wrestled in the States as the only female on an otherwise all-male high school team and only wrestled against boys in official matches. I wasn't even allowed to take creatine - an over the counter pill that's available pretty much anywhere which isn't banned as it's benefits are much like a protein shake. I had to choose between that or wrestling. If I'd been caught on T...I would not only lose the rest of my high school wrestling career but likely any chance of being part of any other sport at high school or university. Testosterone, or any other steroids, were certainly not something anyone could openly take and have one's team brag about as is happening in Texas now. This is a very new development. I know there are plenty of girls now wrestling boys who aren't on T because - shockingly - most still view that as cheating even for those with dysphoria.

Also, kids with conditions like ADD who are on stimulants are often banned from these sports even though the evidence that it gives any sort of medical advantage is very weak while we have decades of evidence of the advantage of taking T even years after coming off.

No one should be going into official meets on T. It's disrespectful and Begg's and Begg's team's attitude has also been incredibly rude. Not surprising for teenagers but they should all be pulled up on that and should really not be surprised that how they're acting hasn't made them any fans. Really, booing wasn't usual even for well-liked wrestlers (rival teams and all that) and I more than once had parents in my face. It's never been a sport known for people being nice...but at least there used to be sensible rules.

Sports have gotten into such a mess, I'm kinda glad none of mine have gotten particularly interested in any.

I have bumped up some of the sensible ones. Unbelievable that this could ever be a possibility. It makes no sense whatsoever

I got a comment through! First time ever. I'd say 99% of the comments are saying 'this is not fair' and all being heavily upvoted (which I imagine is down to the power of MN at least in part ). Not quite as much as normal of the kneejerk 'ha ha feminists, getting a taste of your own medicine now!' you often see on DM comments.

I think we can see what public opinion is on this one, going on the green and red ticks.
He's a guy with long hair. Yep, it's not like he's even gone to any effort. He's just taking the piss basically, and the organisers of the sport are just too chicken shit to say so.

I really hope the crowd boos this competitor
if the upvotes and downvotes of the comments are anything to go by then the crowd is booing this TIM

Presumably it’s also banned for natal boys but would be allowed for him if he competed with them

So Mack Begg (FTM transgender) can take testosterone, but other female wrestlers cannot?

Testosterone is a banned substance, but is only banned for non-trans people?

Christ.

Texas goes by sex on birth certificate. Some girls choose to forfeit bouts with him (I don’t blame them. It’s a mess).

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/25/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-wins-texas-girls-title

Laurel never competed at the Commonwealth Games as a man, right? Or the Olympics or World Championships.

Not good enough to qualify against the men.

But suddenly at age 40 Hubbard is good enough to compete against women internationally, although Hubbard has no physical advantage over female athletes.

There is a transgender boy (high school senior I think) who wrestles in the US. He’s very muscular, and wants to compete with the boys, but isn't allowed to.

So he wrestles the girls, wins, & gets booed.

That’s not right either

I love sport and I love taking part. I really hope the crowd boos this competitor. It is unfair misogynistic pot hunting.

I presume the Daily Mail in this country will run an update on this story on Monday after the competition.

The article will be carefully worded to start with but they will end up finding a way to blame Jeremy Corbyn for it.

I hope the women's weightlifting events at the 2020 Olympics are televised on the BBC and every person who thought that it was just crazy feminists predicting men invading women's sports will realise the truth - hopefully we'll only end up with one Olympics of this shit before they quickly reverse their position.

A reminder that you don't need to log in or register to click the upvote / downvote buttons...

I'm seeing a lot of comments now, mostly sane.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/gendertrender.wordpress.com/2017/03/21/new-zealand-man-gavin-laurel-hubbard-sweeps-womens-weightlifting-competition/amp/

The full story of Laurel is even more rage inducing.

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& look at the green arrows on this EXTREMELY SENSIBLE one!

Whilst people transitioning will be a permanent feature of modern life ... those people should accept that as a result there are things they just can not now do

Was that one of you?

I don't understand how anyone would have the brass balls to do this though... Are they not the slightest bit ashamed? Their competitivness must be off the charts to go up against women and think their winning is fair.

The article itself is quite fair, though, apart from the moderating of the comments.

Really good idea, Suited and Booted.

Hopefully these sort of stories will help open hearts and minds to the insanity of the agenda

I wrote a comment, which hasn't appeared.

I notice the story is from Mail Australia, and I wonder if therefore it is moderated by the Australian team, and that as it's the middle of the night there, perhaps they're not working? Don't know. It seems to happen a lot with the Mail - you spend ages writing a comment and it doesn't appear. Probably their moderation teams are overstretched.

well, I would take the brand on her t shirt as an instruction ....

WTF is the point in trying to compete against someone with what is fundamentally a male physiology even if the muscle mass has been tempered with hormones. They are built for running, and strength.... There is simply no point in competitive female sport if this is allowed to happen it's so bloody crazy!

No problem with transwomen after they've had their bits lobbed off using my changing room etc but don't try entering sports competitions, talk to us about women's issues like you've got the T shirt, or try and foist a further weakening of women's right down our throats.

"I don't believe there is any fundamental difference between me and the other athletes, and to suggest there is, is slightly demeaning to them."

Yeah, it's demeaning to have a smaller heart and lungs.