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Transgender Weightlifter Story in Daily Mail! - will they let the comments through?

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SuitedandBooted · 06/04/2018 10:16

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5584849/Transgender-woman-Laurel-Hubbard-Kiwi-weightlifter-compete-Commonwealth-Games.html#comments

Its pretty bland. It doesn't touch on any other aspects of the GRA, and there are supportive comments from a female weightlifter, ( who is probably watching her back).

There are the usual "Oh , serves the feminists right - they wanted equality!" comments on the story starting up Hmm.

I have commented on DM articles like this before, but my comments don't go up. Does anyone else want to try?

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NotTerfNorCis · 09/04/2018 08:22

Looks like that page is being updated. It's reporting Hubbard withdrew with an injury.

Transgender weightlifter Laurel Hubbard has pulled out of competition on the Gold Coast in eventful scenes.

Hubbard, the gold medal favourite, initially blew the competition away in the first discipline of the women’s over 90kg weightlifting.

Hubbard received treatment from a physiotherapist but was unable to take part in the clean and jerk, denying her chance at a medal.

Juells · 09/04/2018 08:07

I call bullshit!

I love the pussyfooting around that these two commentators are doing before the competition - they can't come straight out and say "What a fucking cheat", but they certainly manage to make their opinions known.

www.news.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/live-commonwealth-games-day-five-on-the-gold-coast/news-story/a805889a75cd4a2f2677699aaf20eebf

StrangeLookingParasite · 09/04/2018 07:40

And this person withdrew "with an injury".

Nextloorejext · 09/04/2018 01:05

I’ve seen a few say thatcas Hubbard was beaten by a woman then it proves they have no advantage. It’s obvious most were just men having a laugh at women being put in their place.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 09/04/2018 00:06

Recently had a horrible row with DH over the whole trans thing with lovely inclusive DH. And DS1 called me a bigot and he was only half joking.

But Laurel Hubbard has instantly peak transed them both. DH is all "Bloody hell you are right, unscrupulous people will take advantage." DS says Hubbard is "stone cold cheating".

I really think the tide is turning.

Pratchet · 08/04/2018 23:18

Well he lifted 258 kg when he beat the actual world champion so let's see what happens

MallorieArcher · 08/04/2018 21:56

Yes, Sarah Robles, who won, is a weightlifter I have been following a d fangirled over, so I was very aware of the story then. I have transwomen as friends and hadn't thought much about it as all my opinions were based on them, and how they were considerate and non intrusive, and clearly wanted to pass as women. This event made me realise that right now this does not represent all transwomen, and especially not those in the public eye, and I just got more angry from there at women's rights and opinions being silenced and eroded by this.
Also then drugs being given to children to halt puberty peak transed a few of my friends.

Pratchet · 08/04/2018 21:31

If he gets a silver medal it's a woman's medal and if he gets a bronze medal it's a woman's medal. If he gets any medal it's a woman off the podium.

Valanice1989 · 08/04/2018 21:31

To say that he can't have an advantage because he didn't win the world championships is ridiculous, anyway. It's like cheating on an exam and saying, "Yes, I may have sneaked a glance at my neighbour's paper a few times, but I still didn't get the highest grade in my class, so it clearly didn't give me an unfair advantage."

Notwellbitch · 08/04/2018 21:16

Laurel Hubbard clearly appearing to throw the last event is what peak transed me.

Oh is that the event referenced in the BBC article that he is now using as evidence that he has no advantage over females? Does seem convenient alright

Mrsbadger77 · 08/04/2018 20:46

I'm loving that you are drawing attention to this and other issues and informing people like me of how much women's rights are being eroded.

Please tell me what is meant by 'peak trans moment' ?

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 08/04/2018 20:25

I hope it gets LOTS of attention.

Many fathers will be saying WFT

Pratchet · 08/04/2018 20:03

Last event in a previous competition Mallorie?

MallorieArcher · 08/04/2018 19:59

Laurel Hubbard clearly appearing to throw the last event is what peak transed me.
Following thread but no comments as I cannot go high right now on this.

NotAgainYoda · 08/04/2018 19:56

I read the BBC article as being very very gutless careful.

It's saying one thing but showing another. There are hints if you look for them, but I think enough for most people to say "Eh???"

Fishfingersandwichnocheese · 08/04/2018 19:51

I have to say a lot of this trans related reporting has really opened my eyes to media bias. Ofcourse is always know it exists and is stronger for some outlets than others.

But even this article from the BBC is biased. It mentions “critics” in a balanced way but the headline frames it as a good thing.

NotTerfNorCis · 08/04/2018 19:47

Just saw this on the BBC. The link text from the main page is 'Transgender weightlifter defies critics.' As though it's some kind of moral victory. Unbelievable.

Like other people have said, I hope he wins by miles and it gets a lot of media coverage.

Nextloorejext · 08/04/2018 19:37

*There is a transgender boy (high school senior I think) who wrestles in the US. He’s very muscular, and wants to compete with the boys, but isn't allowed to.

So he wrestles the girls, wins, & gets booed.

That’s not right either confused*

Problem is if they break the same sex rule then that opens all girls competition up to transgirls competing with girls.

Fairenuff · 08/04/2018 19:35

Why don't the female athletes organise and boycott these events?

Why should they? They have trained hard, they want to compete. All that time, effort and money. All the sacrifices they've made. Should they throw it all away because the organisers can't make proper rules?

As usual, women are having sort out the mess made by others who have no respect for them.

NotAgainYoda · 08/04/2018 19:24

"She's quite an introverted character," Weightlifting New Zealand high performance director Simon Kent said. "Laurel is Laurel. We want to keep things as normal as we can.

from the BBc website

Subtext: "Don't be mean to her..."

NotAgainYoda · 08/04/2018 19:23

Yes. I agree it's good that this is news on the BBC website. The article makes it pretty obvious that the Emperor has No Clothes

Pratchet · 08/04/2018 19:20

I don't know, Trump might be on to something. Failure to win gold would be a big campaign victory for transactivists.

Milvusmilvus · 08/04/2018 19:19

Are the bookies taking bets on the sports that have trans women competing?
Might be time to have my first flutter.Grin
I think I know who is gonna win.

misscockerspaniel · 08/04/2018 18:12

According to Camilla Long, the average age for success in this particular sport is 24. This competitor is 40 (not 39 as stated in her article).

StrangeLookingParasite · 08/04/2018 18:06

I tried to comment as well. The Daily Mail is actually pro-TRA as far as I can tell. None of my gender critical comments make it through.

This smug cheat boils my fucking piss.

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