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Ulster Rugby trial -continued

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ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 04/04/2018 18:18

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Badgerthebodger · 06/04/2018 23:26

We Need to Talk About Kevin springs to mind. I don’t know if anyone has read it but it offers a very interesting look into the mind of a parent whose child has done the unthinkable. Obviously these men haven’t committed the same crimes but it does offer an explanation of why their families still support them.

OlennasWimple · 06/04/2018 22:01

I don't think any of us know how we would react if one of our DC behaved so abhorrently, TBH

HRHPrincessMegan · 06/04/2018 21:39

I’m pretty sure I’ve read (most probably on a link from this thread or it’s predecessor) that PJ paid his own counsel £500k or thereabouts. He’ll need to pay his PR people at least twice that to reinvent his persona.

powershowerforanhour · 06/04/2018 21:24

My immediate thought was, "He's a week too late with that statement". My second thought was "He's nearly two years too late".

Twixes · 06/04/2018 20:59

He didn't write a word of that statement. Too little too late if you ask me.

PaulDacreRimsGeese · 06/04/2018 20:57

Legal aid would've covered it I think. If they chose to pay anything on top of that, that's on them.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 06/04/2018 20:37

I know Olding had legal aid from about the 2nd or 3rd week of the trial. Not sure if they get their own money back. Would doubt it. I expect they would have to sue the complainant.

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peanut2017 · 06/04/2018 20:34

So happy to see the ad in the telegraph. Feel a bit better knowing I helped contribute towards it as couldn't go to the protests. PJ apology is an insult.

eloisesparkle · 06/04/2018 20:18

Because they were found not guilty who pays the men's legal fees ?

sashh · 06/04/2018 20:06

treaclesoda

Fair enough, yes unfair to pick out one parent.

As for supporting your child, Myra Hindley's mother visited her and wrote to her, that must have been hard for her (the mother).

treaclesoda · 06/04/2018 20:01

Although I hasten to add that my husband and I are raising our son to see women as sentient beings worthy of respect. Make no mistake, I would be utterly heartbroken if in 20 years I found myself as the mother of a man who had mistreated a woman.

treaclesoda · 06/04/2018 19:59

Yes, his mother accompanied him to court but so did the rest of his family. It's the singling out of his mother that annoys me, because I haven't read anything that has implied that she has behaved particularly badly apart from being supportive of her son.

I like to think that I'd be leaving my son to rot if my son behaved like hers did. And yet... I'm a mother, he's my son. Even if he did something appalling I'd probably still love him, because he's my son. (Disclaimer: my son is a small child, so I don't actually know how I'd react). Even arseholes, as PJ undoubtedly is, often have mums who love them.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 06/04/2018 19:52

His whole family accompanied him into court.

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sashh · 06/04/2018 19:46

I don't have any respect for Paddy Jackson or his family but I have to admit that I do find it frustrating that his mother has been bearing the brunt of the criticism of his family.

Wasn't she walking in to court with him? Not sure I would be.

I don't know if she has said anything, in the CE case his mother hounded the victim as much as anyone.

Totallymyownperson

Join and tweet it.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 06/04/2018 19:14

Totally agree treacle. It’s always the Mothers that are held accountable for raising these men. What about the men who should have taught them to be men?? Their fathers! You see it on MN too to a lesser degree in thread about lazy husbands who piss on the floor. “Send him back to his mother, she didn’t do her job properly”

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treaclesoda · 06/04/2018 19:06

Notice the stress on him betraying his “family’s” values. His family, particularly his mother, was coming in for heavy criticism. They’re pissed with him.

I don't have any respect for Paddy Jackson or his family but I have to admit that I do find it frustrating that his mother has been bearing the brunt of the criticism of his family. It's always the way, isn't it? It's kind of ironic that so many people (including me) are so furious about the way women are treated in society and yet even amongst that group there are those who feel that a woman must be culpable in some way.

Totallymyownperson · 06/04/2018 18:55

I wish I was on twitter now. I could go in there and tweet #idon'tbelievehim a million times so it trend

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 06/04/2018 18:39

Even the normally-deranged commenters on the Daily Mail site can see through the lies of this putrid little toad. And I apologize to all toads out there which are of infinitely more value than this useless creature. Fuck off Jackson!

EightdaysaweekIloveu · 06/04/2018 18:25

Whoops sorry I'm a bit late. You already have it covered.

EightdaysaweekIloveu · 06/04/2018 18:21

So Paddy has finally come out with another statement, too little too late and I would imagine it is only because his rugby career is affected.

sashh · 06/04/2018 18:10

It's on now

Chaosandchocolate · 06/04/2018 18:10

Oh no. I'm so sorry!

NotTakenUsername · 06/04/2018 18:06

I did! Very interesting actually, but totally irrelevant to this subject!

Chaosandchocolate · 06/04/2018 17:56

I hope no one tuned in to radio 4 based on my post. I must have misheard. Blush
I'm pretty clued up on Russian espionage now.