Ulster Rugby trial -continued

Are you calling me bigoted anneoneill? That's against MN rules.

No crime was committed. The judgement is there in black and white.

I personally find what happened distasteful, but I'm not narcissistic enough to believe my tastes should dictate the world.

"Just women" is about right. That woman's distress, and physical injury, was documented in court. It wasn't even denied. What woman get's so injured and distressed after consensual, enjoyable sex?

It's utter misogyny. This thing that women can get injured after sex that they consented to, and enjoyed - it's gaslighting. It porn-culture. Violent porn culture.

When women enjoy sex they don't make a sodding police report, or send texts like that.

Oh dear, "people's sex lives", before I get checkmated for a typo.

Obvious goady fuckers everywhere.

Trolls are out and about on twitter too 🙄

I disapprove of their disgusting attitude to women and therefore I don't feel they are a suitable role model for kids, either boys or girls Do you, anne?

Imagine them visiting a school, the kids going home and googling their names? Or putting a picture up of themselves and their hero and then discovering what they are famous for besides rugby?

Had those WhatsApp messages been about black people, or disabled people, or gay people we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Had they put up a picture of a group of gay men and called them "Belfast faggots" would they be reinstated? I bet not.

Had they ganged up three on one against a black person (man or woman), called them names and sent them home bleeding and crying, and met for lunch and laughed about it afterwards while sharing photographs of a different black person being beaten up would they be sacked? Of course they fucking would.

But because it was all "just" sexism, "just" about women, it's all ok now? Just a laugh, just a bit of fun. Fuck that.

I'm not the one wanting to tie employment rights to legal sexual activity. That disgusting attitude led to years of homophobia.

You're a charmer aren't you? "bloody kids" - "the gays" - yes. I think we see who you are.

Who exactly are they role models for? Raise your own bloody kids, don't expect the back pages of the newspaper to do it.

Sexual activity that leaves a woman bleeding, crying and making a police report.

Yeah, I'll object to them playing a national sport. Where they're role models. Who mentioned "the gays" - do you associate gay men with activity that leaves women in hysterics and bleeding?

I too think that Ulster will take them back.

I'm really hoping, though, that Ireland avoids selecting them, whatever they do about employing them. They, surely, can't ever be suitable as representatives of a country.

This one is too. I desperately hope UR don't take them back but I think they will & it will be a final kick in the guts if they do.

Exactly agree about them as rugby players promoting the sport-so disgusting & Belfast Telegraph couldn't be more biased if it tried ffs!

The reporting restrictions haven't shown anything new, just reinforced the disgusting attitudes we were already aware of. The blood comments were very weird though

I should clarify that I mean Facebook friends who are also local to me.

This one of the 70,000 signatories is from Ulster. A lot of my Facebook friends signed it too, including some men (although not enough men, sadly)

I'm glad of that Zibbidoo; I've been rather avoiding the FB comments (apart from the IT which seems to have a relatively sensible readership) as it's all too depressing.

I know men down here who have signed the anti one.

I also have a very good (now ex for many reasons not just this) friend who shared the "reinstate them" one - a middle aged man, father to a 20 year old dd; someone who should know better. And who has been called on it by a fair few of his own dd's friends, which is interesting to watch!

At the moment there are 15,000 fuckwits people supporting their petition, and 70,000 have signed the anti-one - but I suspect most of that 70,000 aren't from Ulster

Situp
My dh keeps telling me about the support for Jackson and Olding and the petition to reinstate them on the Ulster team.
How many signed that and how many signed the one in support of the victim do you know?
I want to hit him with statistics.

They all have shown that women are just pieces of meat to them . Even those "very middle class girls" that were tagged as "brassers" and "sluts".

I wonder if McIlroy is still "sleeping in" with Paddy?