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Ulster Rugby trial -continued

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ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 04/04/2018 18:18

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 15/04/2018 21:49

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 15/04/2018 21:47

Is it porn?? Just thinking aloud here: but men seem to be devolving. I wonder what is happening to them.🤔

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LastGirlOnTheLeft · 15/04/2018 21:45

I think men in general are just becoming like animals...only not as cute or lovable!! What on earth is happening to men??
I look at my two beautiful, wonderful daughters and fear for them. Because of worthless men!!

peanut2017 · 15/04/2018 21:42

Did anyone see the article in the Sunday Times Magazine outlining 4 or 5 cases were men were wrongly accused of rape and inferring that the Police and CPS have unconscious bias?

Some of which comes from there being women in senior positions and that they are also trying to up the statistics.

One of the accused says it's part of toxic feminism. Not a great time to read this. He is also campaigning to have the accuser named publicly if the accused was proven not guilty.

treaclesoda · 15/04/2018 21:24

His brother accompanied him in and out of court a lot of the time, but his parents kept a low profile.

NotTakenUsername · 15/04/2018 21:19

AlecTrevelyan006 I understand his family attended the case, they just avoided the media circus and arrived separately.

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ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 15/04/2018 21:18

Oh for crying out loud! I’m Catholic. You’re an absolute liar if you say you’ve never known Catholic men (not boys) to behave as these men have behaved.

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AlecTrevelyan006 · 15/04/2018 21:14

I recall reading somewhere that the word on the street was that Olding's family had virtually disowned him as soon as charges were brought against him, whereas Jackson continued to have the support of his family - that may account for their differing strategies

NotTakenUsername · 15/04/2018 21:14

eloisesparkle. Thank you for saying that I was really shocked they could write such a thing, we all know there are skeletons in the closets of both religions. Sad

But on reread it could be a poorly communicated joke at the absurdity of an opinion like that.

eloisesparkle · 15/04/2018 21:12

I presume LongHotSummer is being funny.

buckeejit · 15/04/2018 21:08

Real Irish?

FFS!!!

Bumblefuddle · 15/04/2018 21:08

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buckeejit · 15/04/2018 21:08

Bumble-I am sorry you are so upset. I am also a working class prod & though some comments have raised my hackles a bit I genuinely don't think there was any ill intent on anyone's part. I can understand in your situation that it strikes harder & I have no idea how MN make their decisions about whether posts stand or not.

If sashh is around maybe they could request their own post be removed?

TheLongHotSummer · 15/04/2018 21:06

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ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 15/04/2018 20:58

I didn’t report it initially as I naively relied on the decency of Sash to report her own post. I will now report it and ask HQ to look harder at it. It’s Sunday night though so I expect it will sit there all night!

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ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 15/04/2018 20:56
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Really disappointing from HQ. If those comments were made about the identifying features of a West Indian person or a Japanese person they would Be deleted. Yet again comments about Irish people are left to stand. When Willl HQ get it? So sick of the shite directed at Irish people being left to stand on MN.

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Step · 15/04/2018 20:26

Sashh- Wise up, those are views reminiscent of the worst of racists.

Very glad the IRFU and Ulster rugby have taken this action. I did suspect there would be a sticking together of the blazers, but pleased with this outcome.

Treaclesoda - whole heartedly agree and then some.

NotTakenUsername · 15/04/2018 20:14

That’s why I wondered about the friendship. They seemed to be taking two very different approaches.
PJ throwing money at it, Olding needing legal aid.
PJ being flanked with his family as he arrived each day, Olding turning up on his own.
PJ trying to peacock about like an innocent man, Olding owning his shameful behaviour even in the light of his acquittal.

Totallymyownperson · 15/04/2018 20:08

Olding must be privately pissed off with Jackson and his bad PR moves.

PaulDacreRimsGeese · 15/04/2018 19:23

Completely agree NotTakenUsername.

Olding was very well advised, I'd say. Regardless of whether he was sincere or not, his actions and statement after the trial gave Ulster Rugby a fighting chance of being able to keep him if they wanted to. I reckon he might have had some professional PR advice there.

Whereas Jackson could hardly have played it worse if he'd tried. I know O'Riordain has apologised, but Jackson has still lost. Made himself the laughing stock of an entire country- #suemepaddy was Ireland's top hashtag over the Easter weekend. I too think if he'd done the same as Olding they possibly might have been kept on.

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