Youtube have taken down list of crimes committed by transwomen on the grounds it's hate speech.

So I suppose putting up a list of "jews that committed crime" is fairly equivalent and would get a largely negative response.

However, when TRAs claim "TERFs" abuse and even murder trans people, while simultaneously ignoring or even denying the abuse and violence from their own side, you have to question whether you are or aren't allowed to show examples that prove them wrong.

I long since reached the point where as long as it's factual and not misrepresented it should be out there for any demographic.
I don't think we should suppress data on any demographic, even protected ones.
Do Muslim men commit more or less assault then Buddhist men? No idea. But if someone wants to produce a report it shouldn't be suppressed.
Facts make me look bad and are hateful, is not a stance I will ever defend.

Do transwomen commit crime at a greater, lesser or same level to other men? Dunno.
Let's find out.

Do women falsely report rape much? No they don't, but in the absence of properly circulated facts the myths persist.

Get facts out there and let them speak for themselves.

That 1600 number represents the women killed by male partners, which account for about half of the female homicides in the US. The actual annual figure is closer to 3000.

This.

Video is still up on Vimeo.

Glad to hear it. I love PY and her videos and I'm glad that she is sticking to her principles. It makes me love her even more.

I'm with ferntwist and all the other reasonable voices. The video was made because it refutes a lie. It was taken down because the trans lobby needs us to be unable to refute the lie. It didn't matter before, there'd never been such stiff opposition to its progress. But now it's different - the UK (by which I mean you lot on mumsnet, not me I'm new) has made it necessary for the lobby to step up its game.

It would be more apposite to have a list of crimes committed by transwomen which were reported by the media as having been committed by women

Video is still up on Vimeo. She's quite clear about the intent that it's to refute "This never happens". I looked it up as I was wondering.

Graph.

All types of people commit crimes, it

Nope. Most crimes are committed by men.

Sexually violent crimes are 98% men. And violent crimes 90%.

They are overwhelming sex specific.

Hence the requirement to retain women only spaces. And the constant need to defend them.

User, anyone making claims that a certain type of person is more or less likely to commit crimes just comes across as a nutter to anyone sensible. All types of people commit crimes, it depends on the individual. Neither side of this particular debate can possibly claim otherwise. At best this list is stooping to a silly simplistic level of ‘discussion’, at worst it’s proganda designed to stir up prejudice.

Can anyone confirm the translation in the comments section for this www.youtube.com/watch?&v=KdIAtFXzCY0

Then when there is a person who breaks the mould - a female comitting a crime that is predominantly male - the MRAs all celebrate and use that forever more to try and stop women discussing "male pattern violence" or similar.

We are in an environment where we know that it is mandatory for the press to lie about certain characteristics, that statistics are being distorted, and we are not allowed to discuss it if we notice that some stories diverge from the usual patterns of male and female offending. This is industrial scale gaslighting.

Oh just saw something on another thread.

The fact there are ? just shows how unreliable things have become. What used to be black and white is now very very grey, to the benefit of MRAs and violent men.

That wasn’t speculation! That a was a news story link and questioning it!

Educated guess at content/context - Truscum, MNHQ have deleted three threads on this today. I think they are waiting for reliable confirmation of a certain person's status before allowing any debate on that person. I think that, if reliably confirmed, it will be something to talk about with reference to offending patterns.

Nasim is a woman's name TerfsUp - the male variation is Nassim.

Nope. That is variance in transliteration.

The female version of the name is Nasima.

What's all the deletion?

Quite Truscum

What the....?

That wasn’t speculation! That a was a news story link and questioning it!

Nasim is a woman's name TerfsUp - the male variation is Nassim.

If someone is making that ridiculous argument, how else can women counter it than by producing evidence which disproves what they're claiming?

This. It's not fair to women to on one hand demand that males can access all women's spaces, do nothing to reassure them or take their concerns seriously and claim there is no evidence of any wrongdoing and this subset of males aren't like other males, and on the other hand suppress evidence that they are. If policy makers would just admit they are male we wouldn't have this issue and we could have an honest discussion about risk etc.