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"The Trans Revolution" to be broadcast on Radio 4 at 8pm tonight

83 replies

kesstrel · 03/04/2018 11:27

How is it that trans people have come out of the shadows and become so visible, in films and music, in ads, on TV, on the radio, when for decades their lives were hidden? What has enabled that change? Is it hard-won battles for equality, changes in gender roles, the birth of the internet, consumer culture? Maria Margaronis explores what lies behind the Trans Revolution and discovers that even asking the question is fraught with difficulties.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09xjx34

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nauticant · 03/04/2018 20:45

There was no investigation of any of the disputed areas. Transgender people are on a journey of freeing themselves from the gender binary so apart from some worries and niggles, it's all good.

Melamin · 03/04/2018 20:44

Beige fluff with nothing from feminists and no mention of what the proposed law changes will bring.

Just everyone being ‘scared of trannies’ as usual.

thebewilderness · 03/04/2018 20:44

Did they frame it as a dispute between Feminists and pornsick weasels?

BlackeyedSusan · 03/04/2018 20:40

Right my previous posts are quotes or near quotes and do not reflect my views. Just posting for the pp who could not listen. It was good that between us we got a lot of it down.

Spindelina · 03/04/2018 20:40

Ha! Stuck out to you too then ;)

Anlaf · 03/04/2018 20:39

Bloke drones on

when does this finish
Centuries from now, I fear

Spindelina · 03/04/2018 20:39

“Nature doesn’t do binary”

BlackeyedSusan · 03/04/2018 20:39

Nature doesn't do binary.

nauticant · 03/04/2018 20:38

The one glaring gap in this programme is that if gender fluidity is great and makes people free, why do some people need to have bits of their bodies chopped off? Or if they don't, what does that mean?

BlackeyedSusan · 03/04/2018 20:38

Maybe get rid of the pink and blue boxes...

BlackeyedSusan · 03/04/2018 20:36

I suffer from that expansion of definition of trans. JF

Anlaf · 03/04/2018 20:36

Let's "open up opportunities for thoughtful discussion" says Polly Carmichael

Oh god it's that bloke opining on stuff. Rebelling against the "oppressive binarism of their parents"

Isn't it a postmodernist thought problem that people can no longer have or express ideas clearly?

CapnHaddock · 03/04/2018 20:36

Oh fuck off porn soaked Jane Fae

BlackeyedSusan · 03/04/2018 20:35

Jane fay on now

BlackeyedSusan · 03/04/2018 20:35

Some young people are taking on non binary as a challenge to oppressive binaryism if their parents

nauticant · 03/04/2018 20:34

6 minutes.

FreezerBird · 03/04/2018 20:34

(I'm meant to be putting DD to bed; when does this finish?)

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 03/04/2018 20:33

"Power is still massed at the masculine end"

No fucking shit.

BlackeyedSusan · 03/04/2018 20:33

More girls referred than boys. Changed. Recently.

Sexualised girls at an early age may contribute to this rise.

Anlaf · 03/04/2018 20:32

What a load of fucking bollocks - the uncertainty over what's a boy and what's a girl makes us nervous, APPARENTLY

Get with the programme, timorous wifies.

Maddy (sp?) aged 20 sounds excellent on what it means to be a girl in a pornified society - and compares gender dysphoria to anorexia. And on the marginalisation of lesbians in LGBT groups. Flowers to Maddy!

Oh more feminists on now...

FreezerBird · 03/04/2018 20:32

Talking about marginalisation of lesbians! That's something, at least.

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 03/04/2018 20:32

Yay...
Finally....a bit about leabians

nauticant · 03/04/2018 20:31

There is an undergraduate woman on now who is actually speaking sense. The pressures on women in a pornified culture. Lesbians being marginalised and under pressure to come out as trans.

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 03/04/2018 20:31

Oooh hang on...might slightly retract that....might be running behind you lot on the listening. Blush

FreezerBird · 03/04/2018 20:30

Ooh - taking about rise in girls identifying as trans.